Recorded by 釋法回法師
Date recorded 3 July 2026
Record of Interviews with Deceased Modern Chinese Celebrities (Preface)
Interview with Peng Shilu (Pioneer and Founder of China's Nuclear Power Industry)
Interview with Kong Yuanyuan (Associate Professor, School of Literature and Art, Shihezi University)
Interview with Wu Xueqian (Former Minister of Foreign Affairs of China)
Interview with Wang Zhaohua (Founder and First Chairman of First Seafront Fund)
Record of Interviews with Deceased Modern Chinese Celebrities (Preface)
Precious Interview Data from Chinese Elites Released on the Global Internet
Seeing the Peril of China, They Descend to Save the World
A pure heart, a new hope
Interview with Zhao Ning (Co-founder of WuXi AppTec)
Interview by Chief Writer: Venerable Fa Hui
3 July 2026
Liang Fudong:
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As a senior member of the Communist Party of China, I have always held a negative attitude towards talk of spirits and ghosts. However, it seems that one should truly learn to be humble and modest; after all, what cannot be seen by the physical eyes does not mean it does not exist.
After I left the world, my spirit entered a very terrifying place called the heart-gouging hell. In this hell, my heart was constantly being gouged open, and the torture tormented me without end. Even more terrifying was that even after dying in this hell, I would be reborn here again; there was no end to such painful days.
Until the warm and powerful voice of Practitioner Su reached me in hell, calling my name, "Liang Fudong." I finally escaped from hell and arrived at the Western Land of Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre in Australia. Namo Amituofo abides at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, a fact I only learned after arriving here.
It turns out that there is such a magnificent precious land in the human world, which is the hope and a ray of hope for the people of Earth. I say this because it holds the secret to not grow old, not get sick, and the spirit does not die. To call it a secret is not quite accurate; it simply means that the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre can help people in the world avoid aging, sickness, and death.
However, this place is by no means something that requires everyone to go to great lengths to explore, because Namo Amituofo hopes that all beings can become a Buddha, be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, and be liberated from suffering. Therefore, anyone who comes to the temple to seek the Dharma can receive the oral teachings and heart-to-heart transmission from Namo Amituofo. Of course, it is also fine to see information about the temple online or through various other channels. Everything here is open to the public from beginning to end; it just depends on whether everyone has the to recognise this precious land.
Here, I must solemnly express my gratitude to my benefactor—Practitioner Su. If he had not saved me from hell, I would still be suffering there at this moment. While feeling grateful, it also makes me more eager to understand: what kind of existence is this Buddha who saved me?
It turns out that Practitioner Su is a Taiwanese person who, after practising to realise one's true nature and attain Buddhahood, is now working with Namo Amituofo at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia to save all humanity on Earth. Because everyone must face the process of aging, sickness, and death, this is just a general statement. In fact, what is the suffering of life if not just aging, sickness, and death? This includes many physical and mental mutations, as well as spiritual obstacles, the attachments to things one seeks but cannot obtain, or those relationships that ultimately remain unfulfilled...
The suffering in the human world is truly difficult to exhaust with words. Everyone who has lived in the human world knows that the taste of life is truly varied and bitter, but in essence, it cannot be separated from this word "suffering." Even if one tries to find in the midst of suffering, it cannot change the essential nature of this suffering. As long as one's heart cannot be the master for a single day, one's life will continue to suffer. This is why Buddhist education is so important.
Because by learning the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, and by listening to sutras and hearing the Dharma, one understands the truth of life and the universe. Gradually, this allows everyone to know how to adjust their own heart and help maintain it in a state of purity and goodness. When the heart can truly rest in this Namo Amituofo without any wavering, that is when one can be the master. By this time, aging, sickness, and death will no longer be a threat to us.
Because the root of these three is actually that one has failed to live in peace with the spirits within the spiritual realms. This mainly refers not to the spirits outside , but to the countless ghosts within our bodies—they are the beings we have harmed in the past, known in Buddhist terminology as . The number of karmic creditors is vast; it can be said to be completely incalculable, as they are truly too numerous to count.
These vengeful spirits live together with one's own spirit inside this body. When I saw this in the Land of Dharma Nature, my scalp went numb. After all, it was as if I thought I was the only one living in my house, but who knew that without my knowledge, there were so many guests living in this house together? This is truly very frightening! After all, karmic creditors actually have full malice towards you because there are unresolved grievances and hatred between you.
Speaking of this, everyone should understand why I entered hell after death. Although I was a very successful private entrepreneur, as a member of the Communist Party, while running the business, I also held positions such as Party Secretary and was always very enthusiastic about Party building work. Among private entrepreneurs, I considered myself barely a model; but no matter how well the business was managed, or how closely connected it was to national policies and the social environment, none of this could ever provide a reliance for my spirit.
It turns out that after death, everything in the world is of no use; it is truly like fireworks—nothing remains after they bloom. After death, only will follow you closely. The Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way are so important. If one does not accept Buddhist education, how can one understand the supreme laws operating in the universe? This truly requires great teachers of heaven and humanity like Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su to tell us these truths so that everyone can understand that one really should not create various sins for this body anymore.
If, while running a business or doing Party building work in this life, one's heart had remained as simple and kind as it originally was, how could one have entered hell after death?
It turns out that in life, no matter what, the simpler, the better. If one becomes tainted with complex forms or mixed with any complex implications, it actually means that one has created sins.
In the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, it has always been a straight path, simple and kind. Purity and goodness are the original compassionate appearance of one's heart. When one's heart has any negativity, evil thoughts, or self-protection, it is difficult to avoid deviation, which may lead one to enter hell to suffer punishment in the future.
If life could be lived over again, I think I would definitely choose a completely different path:
Instead, I hope to use this precious human body to save beings, saving as many as I can. This is something I now deeply realise.
It turns out that when a person comes to the world in this life, they should bring the power of salvation, not bring any burden to this world. Buddhist education tells us that we should change our personality traits to zero; only then can we avoid the of the karmic creditors within our bodies. This is indeed the education that Chinese people should generally accept now, and it is also a part that is lacking in our Communist Party's ideology.
It turns out that everyone has developed countless personality traits from childhood to adulthood, and without anyone pointing it out, one never knows that these traits cause such great harm to oneself. Perhaps everyone makes various changes to cope with work or the reality of the environment, but that is ultimately not a pure intention.
If one can truly make changes for the sake of the karmic creditors and spirits within one's body, hoping that they can be liberated and leave suffering behind, then one can truly change one's personality traits to zero. Because all personality traits arise from wrong thoughts.
Only a truly compassionate person can truly transform every thought into this "Namo Amituofo," allowing oneself and all the beings within one's body to be bathed in the merit and Buddha-light brought by the Buddha-name "Namo Amituofo." This will have the opportunity to help resolve conflicts between each other, and this is also the of Namo Amituofo, allowing everyone to do such an inconceivable thing in such a simple way. This is actually because this Buddha-name contains all the merit of the Buddha. Practitioner Su uses this Buddha-name "Namo Amituofo" to conduct great throughout China and around the world. Beings in immeasurable and boundless spaces are able to escape from those spaces because of this Buddha-name; countless lonely wandering spirits are able to enter the Western Land of Dharma Nature because they are bathed in the Buddha-light.
It turns out that the Buddha's teachings are a powerful force to save the world, capable of bringing such practical help to people in the world. I never knew this in the past; now, the Buddha's teachings in China have long lost their original appearance. Under the current national policies, there are indeed many restrictions on the development of Buddhism.
But for everyone in China, especially the next generation, the Buddha's teachings are indispensable. Because if one does not understand the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, it is difficult to be the true master of one's own human body.
A person who can truly be the master:
Because one's spirit should have been pure and good, it was only due to wrong beliefs that one's spirit was covered with layers of filth.
Now that I am in the Land of Dharma Nature, I recite this "Namo Amituofo" every moment to purify the pollution of my spirit. Now I also invite everyone to recite this "Namo Amituofo" together and experience the inconceivability of this Buddha-name.
While reciting the Buddha-name, one is actually reciting the Forty-eight Great Vows made by Namo Amituofo. When everyone sees the content of these Forty-eight Great Vows and truly initiates the vow, they will be surprised to find: it turns out that one is so similar to Namo Amituofo in many ways; it turns out that Namo Amituofo is so close, so familiar, and understands oneself so well. Only then does one realise that one was originally a Buddha, just wandering in reincarnation due to confusion.
Now the Buddha has come to the world, right here at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, hoping to help everyone in the world find their original self. Hoping to help everyone initiate the great vow to save beings, which is actually saving oneself and the countless suffering spirits within one's body. Rebirth in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss is a great vow that everyone should initiate. In the future, everyone should meet Namo Amituofo in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. This is something that I, Liang Fudong, now in the Land of Dharma Nature, very sincerely appeal to all Chinese people.
The Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is very compassionate and has set up Namo Amituofo billboards all over the world. Although this billboard may look like just a small board, in the eyes of the spiritual realms, it can emit a huge golden light.
Immeasurable and boundless beings can be liberated because they receive the illumination of the golden light, and even more, a large number of ghosts have come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia to seek Chao Du because they saw this Namo Amituofo billboard. Many have already entered the Western Land of Dharma Nature, opening up their brand-new, beautiful spiritual life.
Now I also want to tell everyone some good news: in our China, there are actually a few places that have already set up Namo Amituofo billboards, which has been of great help to the areas where the billboards are located and the surrounding areas.
But I think such a good thing should be done as much as possible. As a Chinese person, everyone has the responsibility to contribute to this land; after all, it is this precious land that has raised us, and we should also give back to it.
Now I share with you the way to give back: one very good method is for everyone to work together to set up more Namo Amituofo billboards across China. This will allow the whole of China to be bathed in Buddha-light and golden light, which is not an opportunity that can be had easily. If the Buddha had not come to the world and used such skillful means to save beings, we would really not be able to use such a simple and easy method to give ourselves the opportunity to be bathed in the Buddha-light.
Buddha-light has great help for both people in the human world and ghosts in the spiritual realms, especially for the karmic creditors within everyone's body, as it has a powerful soothing effect. If you do not want to suffer because of being retaliated against by the angry karmic creditors within your body, or suffer from various physical and mental tortures such as aging and sickness, then setting up Namo Amituofo billboards is a very practical and effective way. This not only benefits the people and ghosts of China but also benefits the suffering beings within your own body.
In short, the Buddha's teachings teach everyone the concept that "the whole universe is actually one body." Why can't a person have even the slightest bit of selfishness and evil thoughts? Because when you are protecting yourself while harming others, you are actually harming yourself, because others and yourself have always been one body. Extending to a wider scope, isn't the whole of China and yourself also one body? Since we live on this land of China, helping China is actually helping yourself.
The Namo Amituofo billboard is indeed a very simple and easy project, but the effect is so good. Therefore, I appeal here for more Chinese people to join in and set up more Namo Amituofo billboards.
Regarding the specific setup of the notice boards or related details, everyone is welcome to contact the Venerables at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre directly. You may contact the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre via the internet, or you may call us directly.
The education of the Buddha’s teachings is truly magnificent. Namo Amituofo sees all beings as Buddhas, and sees all beings simply as children who have not yet received proper guidance. The Buddha never looks at any of the shortcomings of beings, nor does He ever dwell on the faults of beings.
In reality, everything is of a pure and good nature; it is only because our own hearts have become stained with dust that we see imperfection in all external appearances. This is why the Buddha’s teachings instruct everyone to "change personality traits"—it is simply to allow everyone, once their personality has been changed to zero, to naturally no longer see any negativity or evil; what is seen by the eyes and thought by the heart will be entirely pure and good.
This is truly a vast and profound Dharma. The Holy Name "Namo Amituofo" is, in fact, one's own original heart. Reciting this Namo Amituofo in every thought can help one attain liberation.
Now that the Buddha has come to this world, He truly wishes to bring everyone the benefits of not growing old, not getting sick, and the spirit does not die, while also helping every soul to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. I hereby appeal to all Chinese people and those with karmic affinity to come here quickly to seek the Dharma. This is a precious opportunity; saving others is as urgent as putting out a fire, and in saving others, one is also saving oneself.
Everyone should make long-term plans for their own souls to avoid entering the hells to suffer punishment after death; this is a matter that everyone should take seriously. The mission to save the world brooks no delay, and the Namo Amituofo salvation team has been actively carrying out the work of spreading the Dharma.
The salvation team of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is waiting for everyone to join. By joining, you are actually helping yourself to resolve conflicts with the karmic creditors within your own body. Such an opportunity is truly difficult to encounter in millions of years; I hope everyone will take action quickly.
Gratitude to Namo Amituofo, gratitude to Practitioner Su.
Namo Amituofo
Liang Fudong

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