Recorded by 釋法回法師
Date recorded 1 July 2026
Record of Interviews with Deceased Modern Chinese Celebrities (Preface)
Interview with Peng Shilu (Pioneer and Founder of China's Nuclear Power Industry)
Interview with Kong Yuanyuan (Associate Professor, School of Literature and Art, Shihezi University)
Interview with Wu Xueqian (Former Minister of Foreign Affairs of China)
Interview with Wang Zhaohua (Founder and First Chairman of First Seafront Fund)
Record of Interviews with Deceased Modern Chinese Celebrities (Preface)
Precious Interview Data from Chinese Elites Released on the Global Internet
Seeing the Peril of China, They Descend to Save the World
A pure heart, a new hope
Interview with Zhao Ning (Co-founder of WuXi AppTec)
Summary: Co-founder of Qilin Investment, a top-tier quantitative private equity giant, a low-profile super-investor in the financial market, passed away at the age of forty.
Interviewer: Venerable Fa Ning
July 1, 2026
Shen Xianbing:
. I am Shen Xianbing. As a co-founder of Qilin Investment and the person in charge of core technology, I have always been very actively engaged in my work. I have a high sense of identification with this job, using mathematical models and algorithms to precisely extract our exclusive profit codes from massive amounts of data. This process is like mining for gold, and I enjoyed it very much. Of course, it is not easy; it requires excellent professional ability, keen insight, and a great deal of luck.
In my career, I never seemed to lack luck. However, to prevent the programs from encountering issues, I often had to stay up late to monitor the market for many years; this was unavoidable. After all, to succeed, one must pay a price, and these were prices I was willing to bear. I just never expected that after a lifetime of striving and fighting for the goals I had set, and truly achieving success and fame, I would fall into the brain-gouging hell after death.
Just as the name suggests, the punishment in this hell involves having the prisoner's skull repeatedly torn apart and gouged. This torture is repeated constantly, and I have lost count of how many times I have died from having my brain gouged out. With each instance of torture, I felt my once-clear becoming increasingly dim and muddled, as if I were gradually becoming dull and foolish.
This filled me with fear. I never imagined that suffering in this place would not only involve enduring immense pain but would also make me increasingly unclear and foolish. It is truly terrifying! What kind of sins could I have committed to end up in this place to receive such retribution?
I prayed in my heart to one day know the answer. Perhaps my prayer was answered, for one day in hell, a massive golden light instantly brought me to the Western Land of Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre in Australia. At this moment, I am in the pure and bright Buddha-land, beginning my brand-new life.
I am currently at the Western Land of Dharma Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, accepting an interview with the Venerable. I am very grateful to have this opportunity to speak to the world. In the Land of Dharma Nature, I have come to realise that the mission of life has not ended. Without this message, I would not be able to fulfil the value of my life, which is to truly live out the inherent and practise the great vow of helping others.
It turns out that a person's life is only meaningful if they help suffering beings be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. Even if one achieves success and fame in life, if one cannot help people leave suffering and gain happiness, one has ultimately failed this precious life. Every person is a Buddha, and the Tathagata's compassionate act of saving beings is our most authentic form. We come to this world to help beings find liberation. If one does not save even a single being in this lifetime, it is truly a waste of this precious human body.
In this life, I was a materialist and did not really believe in the teachings of Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, or spirits. However, I now know that this was my arrogance at work. After all, just because the physical eyes cannot see something does not mean it does not exist. After death, I learned that the soul leaves and continues to exist; the soul truly exists. A person is not merely a mass of flesh and blood, not just a shell that moves, thinks, and feels, but is composed of both the body and the soul within it.
How many souls are there within this body? The answer is immeasurable and boundless. Seeing from the Land of Dharma Nature, every person in the world has countless and spirits within their bodies, many of whom have deep karmic connections with them.
When I saw that there were so many spirits within the human body, to be honest, I was stunned. Because many of the spirits within the body do not seem friendly; they carry intense evil intent and anger, and they look quite frightening.
After further understanding, I realised that these malicious spirits were once harmed by us in the past, so after death, they entered our cellular space, waiting to seek revenge.
What I am about to say next is a discovery that shocked me: a person's thoughts are truly too important! A single wrong thought can awaken a large number of karmic creditors within the body. And each of us produces countless thoughts every day.
How fast are human thoughts? This is far faster than the speed at which we use computer programs to conduct high-frequency financial trading. In terms of the speed of a human blink, which takes about three to four hundred milliseconds, a computer can complete hundreds of financial transactions. As for humans, I observed in the Western Land of Dharma Nature that in the blink of an eye, the speed at which thoughts are produced is tens of thousands or even hundreds of millions of times faster than computer high-frequency trading. This is truly inconceivable; it turns out that human thoughts are so numerous and produced so quickly.
In addition, I saw in the Land of Dharma Nature that the speed at which each person's thoughts arise is different. Those whose thoughts are extremely fast are mostly quick-witted and agile in thinking, which is what we often call smart people.
Human thoughts are very magical; they can actually influence the surrounding environment to varying degrees. This is perhaps what is called thought power. When I was alive, I did not believe in these things, but now that I have seen it with my own eyes in the Land of Dharma Nature, I know that thought power has such powerful strength. Just by a thought arising, it can have a certain degree of influence on the environment. This could be called changing the magnetic field, right? Yes, this might be a simpler and easier way to explain it.
It turns out that thoughts can change the magnetic field of a person's surroundings, and I discovered that the range within which each person's thoughts can transform the magnetic field also varies: some people's thoughts can have an impact on very distant places, while others can only cause a slight change in their immediate environment.
I observed that the strength of each person's mental power varies. After understanding all this, I deeply realised that the Buddha’s teachings are so vast and important. Because the Buddha’s teachings are, fundamentally, the Dharma of the heart; they teach us that all practice must begin with this heart.
The power generated by thoughts is so great; if it is an evil thought, it will cause harm to the surrounding environment; if it is a good thought, it can bring positive influence and help to those around. Amitabha Buddha is very compassionate and teaches us to chant this name, "Namo Amituofo," which is the most pure and good energy in the universe. When our every thought is this Buddha-name, it will bring great help to the karmic creditors within our bodies, countless beings, and the environment around us.
Within the range of these thoughts, this Buddha-name can significantly transform the magnetic field of the space, making it peaceful, pure, and stable. For the people or spirits living within it, it is of great help. I saw that when everyone chanted "Namo Amituofo," the countless restless karmic creditors within their bodies slowly calmed down.
This Buddha-name is truly amazing; it can help suffering beings eliminate pain and even allow everyone's heart to become calm. Now, after learning the Buddha’s teachings, I understand that the root of all suffering lies in this heart. Whether it is spirits in the spiritual realms or people in the human world, it is actually because the heart has problems that they suffer various hardships. This "Namo Amituofo" is so magical that it can even calm the hearts of countless spirits.
Seeing the manifestation of Practitioner Su confirms that the human body is a supreme high-tech entity far beyond computers. No wonder Practitioner Su always says that our body is very precious and is the technology of technologies. It turns out that the speed of human thoughts can be so fast, and the power of thoughts can be so great.
What is the practice of the Buddha’s teachings actually about? It turns out that it is about putting in the work on this heart. For many people who emphasise practical application, this sentence may still sound difficult to understand or even a bit vague. Here, I will give you a clearer answer. In the Land of Dharma Nature, I realised that learning the Buddha’s teachings is about adjusting every one of your own thoughts.
What exactly are the Buddha’s teachings and practice about? What is being cultivated is this "thought" and "thought power." So, what do Buddhas and Bodhisattvas use to help beings? They use their own hearts and these thoughts.
Unlike ordinary people in the world, the minds of worldly people are often difficult to master. They cannot control their ever-changing thoughts; their minds run around, changing in an instant, completely unpredictable—this is what is called "not being able to be the master." In such a situation, people's thoughts are often bound by greed, anger, delusion, arrogance, doubt, wealth, lust, fame, food, and sleep, spinning in the seven emotions and all day long, or indulging in the disturbances of the secular world.
Buddhas and Practitioner Su are completely different; they are awakened beings who can truly be the master, able to use their "thought-wisdom power" to help beings. That is, using this "Namo Amituofo," carrying the vow to save beings, and exerting the unimaginable majestic power of the Buddha-name to save immeasurable and boundless beings.
In the Western Land of Dharma Nature, what Practitioner Su manifests is the magnificent state of perfect adjustment of thought-wisdom power: with his hundreds of billions of spiritual emanations, he transforms into immeasurable and boundless golden Dharma Bodies, covering the entire Earth. Practitioner Su's thought speed is very fast, and he is always chanting "Namo Amituofo." When Practitioner Su chants the Buddha-name, immeasurable and boundless Amitabha Buddhas appear everywhere on Earth and in every space. As they emit golden light, it signifies that immeasurable and boundless suffering beings have obtained deliverance.
As I said before, the power of thoughts can transform magnetic fields. When Practitioner Su's emanations perform everywhere on Earth, they also improve the Earth's magnetic field. I saw that in many places, due to Practitioner Su's Chao Du, people experienced much less interference from spirits in the spiritual realms, making the body-mind-spirit burden of people in these areas much lighter.
Now Amitabha Buddha has come to the world to bring the benefits of not grow old, not get sick, and the spirit does not die to the people of the world. If it were not for the Buddha revealing the truth of the universe and life to us, we would not have known that there is such a great connection between the human body and the spiritual world. If one does not know how to live in harmony with spirits, the path of life is often difficult to be smooth. The impermanence of life comes from the variability of this heart. When a wrong thought arises, it is a violation of the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way. In terms of the laws of and cause and effect, this has already left a deep mark on one's soul. The originally pure and good appearance of the soul is stained with black spots, which symbolises the mutations and distortions that may appear in our future body and face.
How can one make their life no longer suffer? The Buddha gave us a very simple answer, which is to know yourself. But doing so is not that easy. After all, this body is too deceptive. People living in the world treat this body as their true self, but they do not understand that the soul is the most authentic self of life. If the interference of various spirits within the human body cannot be subdued by mental cultivation, it is very painful—painful because one does not know why they are suffering, and even more painful because they do not know how to face the massive sins created in the past.
Now that the Buddha has come to the world, it is to lead all people to pay off the karmic debts owed in the past. Only by being single-mindedly devoted to the Buddha, leaving no retreat, and having no more looking back or attachment to anything in the world, can one succeed. When you let go of everything and initiate the magnificent great vow to follow Amitabha Buddha to save the world, chanting "Namo Amituofo," you can lead the beings within your body to obtain deliverance. Every soul wanders in the six realms of rebirth, suffering torment, just because there is no stable home.
In the Land of Dharma Nature, I finally understood one thing: the future of each of us should be directed towards the bright and beautiful Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. Amitabha Buddha is so compassionate that he created this magnificent and dignified Buddha-land, hoping that everyone will make a vow to go there, and even more so, hoping that through the various magnificence and dignity of the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, we will understand that our own heart is as inconceivable as the beautiful scenery and merits of the Pure Land. It turns out that the unborn and undying Buddha-nature in the heart has never left, and a Buddha is always sitting deep within the heart. If one can initiate the great vow to save all beings in the present moment, it is actually saving one's own soul.
However, in the Land of Dharma Nature, I clearly saw that people have long been accustomed to the disturbances and thinking of the secular world, accustomed to protecting their own bodies and calculating gains and losses. In this habitual doubt and comparison, people are completely unaware that they are missing the precious opportunity to regain the original virtues of the Tathagata.
The Buddha has come to this world, bringing everyone the opportunity to find themselves again. Now, I, Shen Xianbing, am in the Western Land of Dharma Nature, and I sincerely invite all my friends in the business world in China who know me, as well as those who know me, and of course, every employee of Qilin Investment. I hope that you can all come to know the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Queensland, Australia. This is not merely for the sake of rebirth in the future, or to seek peace after death, but to allow oneself to be free from suffering in the present moment. Life is truly full of suffering; everyone must go through the process of birth, aging, sickness, and death, yet they cannot understand that all of this is the result of karmic creditors seeking revenge. If one does not receive the education of the Buddha’s teachings from the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, and does not understand the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, how can one avoid creating the sins of hell in the most subtle of ways? This is why many people in the world have already been assigned a place in hell, and even while they are alive, a part of their soul is already suffering punishment in hell. The soul in extreme pain causes the body to develop many illnesses. It turns out that all patients are prisoners in hell. It turns out that every wrong thought has the potential to cause one's soul to pay such a huge price in the future. If I had not encountered the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, I would not have understood that in one's life, one should only place this Buddha-name, "Namo Amituofo," in one's heart, and nothing else. It turns out that every time we chant the Buddha's name, we are telling ourselves that we are originally a Buddha, and it is a reminder to recognise our original face. It turns out that our true nature is just like the Forty-eight Great Vows of Namo Amituofo—it is the appearance of a Buddha who has vowed to save all beings. The true Great Dharma is not in complex theories, but in the chanting of the Buddha's name in the present moment— to the fact that we are originally Buddhas, and awakening to the fact that we should become Buddhas. To those who are connected by karmic affinity and are reading this letter, do you know that you are a Buddha? Perhaps, at this moment, you are no longer the true self. We slowly discover that maintaining the balance of our body, mind, and spirit is not an easy task; it often requires a lot of time to slowly resolve the problems of the body, mind, and spirit. However, I hope everyone can understand that the Buddha coming to this world is something difficult to encounter in millions of years. Both the human world and the spiritual realms are very painful. As long as you are willing to accept the Buddha's help, the Buddha will help everyone leave suffering behind. This opportunity should be grasped firmly; whether it is the Western Land of Dharma Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre or the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, both can become our home and destination. I am grateful to the Buddha and Practitioner Su for saving me. My future is the beautiful Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. The Buddha has come to this sea of suffering in the Saha World and built a great ship that will sail to the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. The name of this ship is the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, and it will lead the passengers on board to sail away from the sea of suffering of birth and death, towards eternal liberation and light. At this moment, I have already boarded the ship, and I hope that you can all board soon. Gratitude to Namo Amituofo, gratitude to Practitioner Su. Namo Amituofo. A letter from Shen Xianbing to all partners and core investors of Qilin Investment: Here, I would first like to share some good news with you all. Have you heard of the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss? In the future, I will be able to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. Right now, I am at the transit station to the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, which is the Western Land of Dharma Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Queensland, Australia, speaking to you all. It is truly me! If you do not believe it, you can call the temple immediately, or come here to speak with me. Today, with the help of the temple's monastics, I am conveying these messages to you, and I am very grateful for this opportunity. Throughout this life, I have been very clear about what I should and should not do. I have always moved steadily towards my goals, and I have been quite successful in my business. I have indeed poured a lot of heart and soul into Qilin Investment, and I am very grateful to the two partners who founded this company with me back then, and even more grateful to the investors who have always supported Qilin Investment. Without everyone working together, Qilin Investment would not have the development it has today. However, worldly achievements and the wealth earned are ultimately meaningless after death. Having suffered punishment in hell, I was in great pain. If it were not for Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su saving me, I would not know how much longer I would have had to endure the torture in hell. In short, I am now living a very peaceful and happy life, with no more confusion. In the past, I thought I knew how to live my life, but in reality, I did not truly understand, because I neglected the spiritual aspect. Without resolving the conflicts with the karmic creditors and beings within my body, I would ultimately still have to face the end of birth, aging, sickness, and death. Right now, at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, I have learned the true secret of not growing old, not getting sick, and the spirit never dying, which is this Buddha-heart, "Namo Amituofo." It sounds short, yet it can also be spoken of for an incomparably long time. In short, Namo Amituofo has now come to this world to bring the benefits of not growing old, not getting sick, and the spirit never dying to all humanity on Earth, and I hope that everyone can receive these benefits. You can search for "Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre" online right now and take a good look at the articles on the temple's website. I hope these contents can bring you different inspirations and realisations. Actually, I know that you all have considerable strength and possess substantial capital. How should these funds be properly utilised? I think you all must have had very clear plans and blueprints in the past. But now that I am here, I am, in a way, returning to my old profession, and I am once again offering you a new investment opportunity. The name of this project is "Star of Hope." The "Star of Hope" project is a concept I formed only after seeing the myriad phenomena of the world from the Land of Dharma Nature. I have never had the opportunity to propose this concept before; after all, it is impossible to talk to people in the world after death without this special karmic affinity. Now that I have this opportunity, I want to propose this concept to you quickly, and I hope that you can invest your resources, connections, and capital into the salvation work of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. This can bring hope to all humanity on Earth, because no one can avoid the process of birth, aging, sickness, and death, but by knowing the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, one can avoid such suffering. This is not a slogan, but something that can truly be achieved. This is because the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre has Namo Amituofo and the flesh-body Buddha who has manifested in the human world to become a Buddha—Practitioner Su. Practitioner Su has true mental cultivation and true spiritual achievements, which are being promoted and expanded here. Coming here, you can witness what true Buddha’s teachings are. In short, if you can invest heavily in the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, this will not only bring hope to all humanity globally, but more importantly, it will first bring a possibility of salvation and liberation to yourself and your karmic creditors from many lifetimes. This is because without a large amount of merit, it is impossible to resolve the conflicts with the countless karmic creditors within our bodies. The karmic debts we have owed in the past cannot be easily repaid. If we do not take advantage of this magnificent opportunity of Namo Amituofo coming to the world to save beings, I fear there will be no more chances. This means that we will continue to be entangled with our karmic creditors for a long time, and that pain is truly unimaginable. Just imagine, if it were not for the revenge and entanglement of these karmic creditors, why would our lives suffer so much hardship? Since it is an investment project, it naturally demands returns. Although this way of speaking is more worldly, I believe that as long as everyone is willing to do good deeds, there is no need to be too concerned about other issues. In short, the "Star of Hope" project can help immeasurable and boundless beings. The compassion of Namo Amituofo extends throughout the vastness of the Dharma Realm; in other words, there is no being who does not have a karmic affinity with Namo Amituofo. Therefore, all beings are the objects of Namo Amituofo's salvation. Think about it, how many people and how many beings this project will be able to help, and how immense the feedback will be. It cannot be calculated by the mathematical models or algorithms we are familiar with. Why should everyone participate in this project? Because it is absolutely necessary. Just imagine, if there were no such magnificent karmic affinity, it would actually be very difficult for us to truly avoid the torment of aging and illness. After all, the biggest difference between you and ordinary people is that you possess substantial capital and operate large-scale enterprises. In any case, to put it more bluntly, you are a group of elites who are very successful in the world, and your influence, financial power, resources, and connections are all very outstanding. However, everything has a price, and none of this comes from nothing. I do not need to say this; you all know it in your hearts. Please ask yourselves: in the process of achieving these successes, have we ever hurt others? Have we ever acted with selfish motives? I will leave this answer for you to explore yourselves, but what I want to tell you and share with you today is: it turns out that as long as a thought is contrary to the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, it is possible to attract the bitter fruit of hell, or cause your soul to be harmed and attacked by karmic creditors and other beings. If a person's behaviour and thoughts are not deviated, then one should not see the traces of time on one's face or body, and even less should one see the existence of aging and disease. The "Star of Hope" project, in addition to hoping that you will invest resources into the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, also has a concrete and far-reaching mission: to continuously discover young children and let them come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre to learn the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way. Our deepest hope is that they can be like Practitioner Su in the future, awakening to their true nature and attaining Buddhahood. Just imagine, if one more Buddha can be achieved in the human world, it means that immeasurable and boundless beings can be saved because of this; this point is of vital importance! Looking back on my life from the Land of Dharma Nature, I have truly understood that the only value of a person's life is to help beings. Only after coming here did I thoroughly awaken to how important this matter is to us! It turns out that helping beings is helping oneself; the suffering of beings represents our own suffering. Whether it is the beings within our bodies or the beings outside our bodies, we should actually help them leave suffering behind. This letter records my experiences after leaving the world, and it is also my heartfelt words for fulfilling the value of life. I spent this life chasing fame and wealth for this body, and only now do I understand that "saving the world and delivering beings" is what we should truly do. I sincerely hope that you can join the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre through this letter, which can be considered as allowing my life to reach a truly perfect conclusion. In any case, I will wait for the good news in the Land of Dharma Nature, looking forward to your good news. May we all meet again in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss in the future. Gratitude to Namo Amituofo, gratitude to Practitioner Su. Shen Xianbing [[BLOCK_0]]

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