The Grace of Namo Amituofo: An Interview with the Primordial Demon Mo Ru Xi

This is a record of an interview with Mo Ru Xi, an ancient demon who sought Spiritual Deliverance at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia. He now resides in the Western Dharma-Nature Land. This account reflects upon his existence spanning approximately twenty-nine billion billion trillion years. Recorded by the chief writer, Venerable Fa Hui, on December 28, 2025.

Mo Ru Xi speaks:

"Namo Amituofo. I am Mo Ru Xi. Today, I am overjoyed because the great Namo Amituofo has personally called upon me, Mo Ru Xi, to come forth and share with everyone how I spent my life of twenty-nine billion billion trillion years in the Dharma Realm.

I first offer three bows and three prostrations to the great Namo Amituofo. If not for the appearance of Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su in the Dharma Realm, I, Mo Ru Xi, would still be trapped in the deep, dark spaces of the Dharma Realm. That was a place of silent darkness—a truly excellent place for us in the Demon Realm. It was so dark that it had no bottom, and it was the place where we old demons and ancient demons often resided. The sheer darkness of our dwelling place reflects the darkness of our hearts and actions. Before encountering Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su, I never felt there was anything wrong with myself. Having existed in the Dharma Realm for such a long time, I was rightfully called an elder, a senior, or a primordial ancestor by the younger generations. Under such circumstances, how many ancient demons would willingly accept being sent to a place of light while they were in a state of deep meditative concentration?"

The Awakening in the Light

"My awakening only began after I arrived at the Western Dharma-Nature Land, where my heart finally opened and began to clear. Before that, even if I felt something was amiss, I could simply cover it up. The 'covering-up' skills of an old demon are not ordinary; they are invisible. It was not until the Buddha-light brought by Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su, along with the Buddha-name resonating in that space, broke open the deep, dark void that I, this ancient demon Mo Ru Xi, was able to emerge. Yet, the moment I appeared, I was sent to the Western Dharma-Nature Land in the blink of an eye. At the time, I was still confused about the situation.

I never tracked or calculated the time I spent in meditative concentration, but this period allows me to understand how long I had been in that state. I report to you all today: the figure of twenty-nine billion billion trillion years was told to me by Namo Amituofo. When the Buddha tells everyone, He is simultaneously telling me. If we calculate the duration of my meditative state by halving it, that would still be fifteen billion billion trillion years, would it not? Thus, one can see that the time I spent in that deep, dark space was certainly longer than my time in meditation—greater than fifteen billion billion trillion years. There are many such places in the Dharma Realm.

How many ancient demons and old demons have yet to appear? As far as I know, they are countless and incalculable. This is a truly shocking fact. I believe that if Namo Amituofo had not come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, and if He were not abiding here; if Practitioner Su had not manifested in the human world in this lifetime to realise his true nature and achieve the Buddha-body; and if the Teacher, Practitioner Xia Lianju, were not also abiding at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, along with my arrival at the Western Dharma-Nature Land—none of these matters would ever be made public to the world."

The Boundless Nature of the Dharma Realm

"The people of the world have absolutely no opportunity to know how vast the age of the Dharma Realm truly is. Taking myself as an example, the Dharma Realm is boundless and infinite. In the Buddha's teachings, we use the term 'Ten Directions of the Dharma Realm' to describe its scope. In fact, within the ten directions, there are more ten directions, and within those, there are even more. I could go on forever. Have you ever thought about the nature of space? I believe that even high-level practitioners know this in their hearts, but how can one use language and text to express it so that those learning the Buddha's teachings can understand the nature of space, the existence of the Dharma Realm, and the fact that there is space within space?

When I was a little demon, the Dharma Realm already existed. Now that Namo Amituofo has entered the Dharma Realm to save the demon crowds, the ancient demons who have come to surrender at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre are, to my knowledge, now thirty billion billion trillion years old—one billion billion trillion years older than me. This is a massive number, but for those of us who enter meditative concentration, this number and time seem to have no special meaning. It is just a blink of an eye. From the moment I closed my eyes in meditation to the moment I opened them, fifteen billion billion trillion years had passed for me. Therefore, the Buddha's teaching that 'the one is the all, and the all is the one' is something I deeply admire. 'The ten directions of the Dharma Realm merge into one body'—this is the definition of the Dharma Body, which I also deeply admire.

In truth, the Dharma gates are boundless. In the Buddha's teachings, it is said that the eighty-four thousand Dharma gates exist to counteract the eighty-four thousand afflictions of beings. But beings are boundless, and their afflictions are not limited to eighty-four thousand; this number represents the immeasurable and boundless afflictions of beings. If we look at the thirty billion billion trillion days of the Dharma Realm, how many beings have arisen and ceased in impermanence? They are also immeasurable and boundless, which is why the Dharma gates are boundless."

The Heart-Capacity of a Buddha

"Practitioners must have the opportunity to hear the teachings and open their hearts to possess the heart-capacity and view of the Dharma Realm that Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su have. Only then can they have the ability to save us ancient and old demons. How many such practitioners are there? Practitioner Su often says, 'I want to teach you my skills, but no one can learn them.' Practitioner Su's skills are not ordinary; he can encompass ancient demons of thirty billion billion trillion years, and you say there is even more! How many practitioners possess such heart-capacity? Sometimes, people cannot even tolerate each other, so how can they encompass the vastness of the Dharma Realm and the countless demon crowds? Would you not agree?

Practice is about cultivating the mind. Based on my observations during these days, the practice at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is extremely magnificent! You face various 'test questions'—including those given by the spiritual realms and demon crowds—unlike ordinary practice where the people, things, and scenery around you are the only objects of testing. Practicing at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre allows for rapid achievement because the nature and objects of the things you encounter are so inconceivable, far beyond what the world outside the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre can imagine.

Regarding the spiritual realms, there are countless beings in the Western Dharma-Nature Land. May I ask if they were all saved by Practitioner Su and the beings invited out from the bodies of the fourfold community of disciples? Or were they beings from memorial tablets brought by people seeking Spiritual Deliverance from afar? How vast this Western Dharma-Nature Land is! The size of one's heart-capacity determines how many beings one can encompass. Have you ever heard of the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss reaching 'full capacity'? Over the past ten kalpas, the number of beings saved is uncountable and indescribable, yet the Western Pure Land remains clear, beautiful, and pleasing to the eye. Practicing within it allows for rapid achievement, and there is no news of it being 'full,' which shows just how vast the heart-capacity of Namo Amituofo is. Therefore, the name 'Dharma Realm Abode' is truly fitting.

For these words to come from the mouth of Mo Ru Xi is truly rare. Firstly, I am not one to praise others, and secondly, I do not wish to look at the merits or faults of others. Even if I knew them, I would just observe; why speak of them? But at this moment, I am recounting my experiences of these past few days as if I were counting my own treasures. Every single event is enough to leave people stunned."

The Truth of the Universe

"If I were a little demon today, the things I have encountered might be heard or seen through any of the six roots—eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind—or learned through various media and the internet. But the words I am speaking now cover twenty-nine billion billion trillion years of experience, encounters, and integration. May I ask, where in the human world can one find such news or information? Nowhere, right? Yet, it can be clearly stated here at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. The most brilliant one is Namo Amituofo, who could call out my name, Mo Ru Xi, from among countless ancient and old demons, and even state my age. This truly makes me admire Him to the point of prostrating in complete surrender. Basically, demon crowds do not value their age; they value seniority, because the age is truly impossible to calculate.

What we call night and day in the human world is calculated as one day, but in the spaces of the Dharma Realm, every space has different days. Only near bright stars can one see brightness; many other stars pass their days in darkness. Especially, how can one calculate the days on a demon planet? But now that Namo Amituofo has spoken, it makes the bits and pieces of my past seem to pop out on their own. I have never been willing to look back or touch upon them, because many things are shockingly unspeakable.

The so-called 'Big Bang' of the universe is something I experienced before I entered meditative concentration. It was an extremely cruel event. It was a result of collective karma; no one could stop it. Since it happened, one had to face it. I survived the disaster. At the time, my spirit was not torn apart, nor was it shattered by the explosion or blown into other spaces. Fortunately, I survived. But because of that encounter, my character underwent a massive change. I originally thought that I could do whatever I wanted—as long as I was willing and wanted to do it, no one could stop me. This is called 'demon nature'.

However, demon nature cannot resist the power of the collective karma of nature. No ancient demon could stop it. After the character transformation following the Big Bang, I accepted my own inadequacies. This is a very important step for one who repents. I repent for my inadequacies because there is a stronger power maintaining or governing the operation of the Dharma Realm, but I could never find the answer.

Now, I have found the answer to what this power is. What power? It is called the Universal Principles, Truth, and the Righteous Path. Ancient demons cannot change this power, which shows how incredibly strong it is.

This is why Namo Amituofo, in His great compassion, always mentions in His teachings: 'Everyone must abide by the Universal Principles, Truth, and the Righteous Path.' The compassionate Teacher, Practitioner Xia Lianju, also reminds everyone of this, and Practitioner Su repeatedly emphasises the importance of the Universal Principles, Truth, and the Righteous Path in his Dharma talks, fearing that the public will not understand because it is too abstract, so he condenses it into 'moral foundations'. When I first heard 'moral foundations', I thought, 'If moral foundations can express the Universal Principles, Truth, and the Righteous Path, that is truly remarkable!' So, I entered meditative concentration again to observe what 'moral foundations' are. It turns out they are the wisdom, language, actions, and thoughts passed down by our ancestors over the five thousand years of Chinese history.

Confucius said, 'Cultivate the self, regulate the family, govern the state, and bring peace to the world.' Moral foundations are contained within this. Confucius, as a sage, is highly revered in the field of education in China. His works and words have been recorded, and even today, seniors in the field of education hold him in high regard. The Confucian thought and education passed down by Confucius are extremely great and indeed encompass many moral foundations. Chinese Taoist thought is also extremely great; it is an observation and evaluation of the spiritual realms, the natural world, and natural laws, which then developed into a set of theories and teachings that people can accept and learn. The main point is to respect—to respect nature. Nature is the environment in which the people of the Saha world or the countries of the Earth reside.

In the vastness of the Dharma Realm, there is a Master, a governing power within this great environment. Now I know that this power is the Universal Principles, Truth, and the Righteous Path. Because Namo Amituofo is now abiding at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia and has spoken of this in His Buddha-word teachings, our hearts were shaken. If it were ordinary truth or the righteous path, everyone might understand, but to include the 'Universal Principles'—I fear few have heard of this before, or perhaps never at all. That is because Namo Amituofo, who abides in the Dharma Realm, touches upon the Universal Principles. The meaning represented by these four words is too profound and too important.

From what I have seen or known, in past Buddhist education, the four words 'Universal Principles' seemed extremely distant or were never even mentioned. It is only now, in the teachings of Namo Amituofo at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, that they have begun to appear. This is a great gift to humanity. From the perspective of the universe, the Earth is an insignificant, tiny planet—as small as a grain of sand in the eyes of a person. Yet, Namo Amituofo, who abides in the Dharma Realm, can exist here, and Practitioner Su can appear to save the ancient demons of the Dharma Realm. This shows the principle of 'Mount Sumeru contained within a mustard seed, and a mustard seed containing Mount Sumeru.' If we look at the Dharma Body of Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su, they are merged into one with the Dharma Realm. How vast and bright they are! Yet, they can exist on a tiny Earth the size of a grain of sand, and their heart-capacity does not diminish in the slightest. Their vow and actions to save beings have not decreased at all. They have not shrunk because they are in such a small space. No. When the Dharma Body and the billions of transformation bodies enter the Dharma Realm, their heart-capacity does not expand because the Dharma Realm is so large, because the Buddha-heart is originally boundless and immovable. Moreover, they can save, teach, and act according to the conditions, time, and place at any moment. Such a practitioner is called a Buddha.

This is not an easy thing. Just like Mo Ru Xi, for the first time in twenty-nine billion billion trillion years, I have encountered a practitioner in the human world who uses the power of his billions of transformation bodies and Divine Foot to travel far into the Dharma Realm to save demon crowds. At the same time, under the blessing of Namo Amituofo, he has opened the places where the old and ancient demons of the deep, dark spaces of the Dharma Realm reside. I mentioned these things first because this matter is extremely important, yet the fourfold community of disciples has not yet felt its importance. If you truly understood, every second of the twenty-four hours in a day would be extremely precious.

Because you understand and have received such profound and vast Buddhist education, you can be courageous and diligent, quickly finding back your true nature that is the same as Namo Amituofo, and the same Divine Foot as Practitioner Su. Then you will no longer be restricted, dominated by karma, controlled by beings, or fall into a state of drowsiness and lose autonomy in space, allowing your true nature to be buried again and again. Truly intelligent, wise, and compassionate people should awaken. When Mo Ru Xi was sent by the Buddha to the Western Dharma-Nature Land, I woke up very quickly and figured out what was going on. Especially Practitioner Su's Dharma talks, which can quickly cut to the point, making us ancient and old demons suddenly wake up.

The so-called 'waking up' is waking up again and again. You think you are awake, but you are still in a dream. You wake up again, and after listening to Practitioner Su's Dharma talks, you realise you were not fully awake, still half-dreaming. You listen to the Dharma again, and suddenly you have a great realisation: 'So, I haven't gotten it yet.' Even now, I don't know how much I understand or how awake I am. Because every time I listen to Practitioner Su's Dharma talks, I gain something. Things I didn't understand, I now understand, or I suddenly have a great realisation, learning the reason why I couldn't become a Buddha and instead became an ancient demon. For an ancient demon, this is an extremely important matter.

What kind of opportunity is there to encounter a Buddha who is more senior and understands the Dharma Realm or the Buddha's teachings better than oneself? Speaking of this, one can understand the position of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre and its importance in the world. Because it is too important, some practitioners who have heard about what is happening here and the situation of the deliverance are actually arrogant, indifferent, or because their minds have not yet opened, they ignore this precious land. This is truly a pity! I finally understand why, when Shakyamuni Buddha was teaching, He said, 'In my forty-nine years of spreading the Dharma, in fact, I have not said a single word of Dharma.'

Why? Every Dharma is spoken in response to the problems of beings; it is what beings need. The Buddha also said there are too many things He has not said, because even if He said them, everyone would not be able to understand. Just like now, Namo Amituofo is abiding at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, and the teachings He gives are so important, so deep, and so vast. Many people hear them and think they are ordinary, or they do not take them to heart, or they do not value them, or they let them pass by their ears easily, not knowing that this is the key point for everyone to realise their true nature, become a Buddha, and achieve the Buddha's path! By encountering the teachings of such a teacher, you have the opportunity to become a person like the teacher, possessing the teacher's abilities and skills.

The teacher is someone who has already walked the path, so he can know the student's problems and prescribe the right medicine for the illness. But even if the teacher has this ability, can the medicine cure the illness? This requires the student's cooperation. If the student is stubborn, does not listen, and thinks he is right, then this question will continue to be answered incorrectly. Let's see how long he will continue to be wrong before he is willing to accept the teacher's guidance. If the student says, 'Teacher, I was wrong. I am willing to do what you say,' then this student can be saved. Because this question can be answered correctly, and no matter how the question changes in the future, he will be able to pass.

But you must listen. The benefit of listening is that it will clear the blockages, and you will be able to get through anything. The Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is truly an advantageous place because there are many opportunities at any time for everyone to face themselves. Finding the real self and facing oneself is not an easy thing; but it is also very easy—just listen, and don't have a 'self'. This is what Practitioner Su often says. I have learned it because I want to be an obedient student. In the past, it was the juniors in the Demon Realm who listened to me and did as I said; now, it is I who must listen—listen to the Buddha and Practitioner Su.

Mo Ru Xi, an excellent demon, even an ancient demon who has survived for twenty-nine billion billion trillion years, now lets go of his past self. I don't want to keep any of it; I only want to take in the words of Namo Amituofo, the Teacher Practitioner Xia Lianju, and Practitioner Su. Only these words can help me change my appearance and transform my past demon nature into Buddha-nature. This is my profound feeling after listening to the Dharma at the Western Dharma-Nature Land, seeing the deliverance by Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su, and seeing the teachings given to the fourfold community of disciples. My words are credible! Do not let them pass by your ears, because I am someone who has walked the path and has had very profound experiences.

I have seen many characteristics in people—that is, demon nature. The personality is very similar to that of the demon crowds. This is a crisis, and also a turning point. The crisis is that if you do not transform, it is called a crisis—meaning you will continue to suffer, endure, and reincarnate through aging, sickness, and death. The so-called turning point is that since demon nature has appeared and has been clearly pointed out, if you can humbly accept this fact, although it is painful, you can sincerely change your ways. Then, congratulations to you! Because under the education of the Buddha's teachings and the washing of the Buddha-water, demon nature can be subdued, and further purified, restoring your original nature.

Why do I say 'subdued'? My current position is that I have been subdued, but I am still working hard to use Buddha-water to wash away the heavily polluted demon nature. It is not easy to encounter such an opportunity. In my twenty-nine billion billion trillion years of life, Mo Ru Xi has encountered many excellent beings in the Demon Realm. Some are little demons, some are great demons, some are old demons, and some are ancient demons. For everyone, there are several destinations, and the most miserable destination is being sucked away by the laws of karma and cause and effect. Those who are sucked away certainly suffer great pain. This is the law of cause and effect, which we in the Demon Realm know.

Apologies, there was some interference just now. Many juniors heard the voice of Mo Ru Xi and came to see clearly and hear clearly what was going on. It is very rare for me to say so much and teach everyone so much. Please do not interfere; please stay far away from here.

Currently on Earth, technology is quite advanced. 'Quite advanced' is my view from the perspective of an Earthling. In fact, in the Demon Realm, these are not problems; otherwise, how could the Demon Realm control the human world? This is magic. Magic can absolutely control the human world, but it cannot resist the Buddha's teachings. So, at this time, the Buddha's teachings are to be spread, and Buddhist education is to educate the human world. Why is it being obstructed? Because if this happens, the survival of the demon crowds is threatened, so the demon crowds naturally want to block it. This part is also the reason why the precious land of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is currently being interfered with by demon crowds. The most direct method of interference is to interfere with the fourfold community of disciples. This is a technique that the Demon Realm is very good at using.

If there is internal vibration, external demonic power easily enters. When that happens, will the True Teachings go astray and become magic? At this time, how can Namo Amituofo abide? And how can Buddhist education continue to be spread on Earth and in the Dharma Realm? Therefore, the demon crowds are continuously controlling the hearts and actions of a few fourfold disciples; the goal is here. Of course, Practitioner Su, you see clearly and hear thoroughly and know this, so you repeatedly shout to stop them and repeatedly tell everyone what to do.

Those controlled by demon crowds no longer have the hearts and actions of ordinary people or the situation where they could accept good words and good language before. So, even if precious Buddha-words can break the magic of the demon crowds, they cannot exert any force and are of no use. This is because their hearts are in sync with the hearts of the demon crowds. How can this resolve and break the control of the demon crowds? Listen! The illumination of Buddha-light is the fastest method. I have revealed this method here. Many demon crowds might be jumping with rage: 'Ancient demon, this is a place we are very afraid of! You have revealed it. How can we survive? How can we control them?'

Here, I must also advise the demon crowds who can send such messages: Since I have said so much, I think you should also put down the butcher's knife and become a Buddha on the spot. Don't use these tricks anymore. These tricks are effective for the fourfold community of disciples, but for Practitioner Su, they have no effect. Practitioner Su's heart is the Buddha-heart. He only wants to save beings, unlike the hearts of the demon crowds, which want to control and harm beings to achieve their own desires—that is, to continue to gain a foothold in the Demon Realm or let the demon crowds return to control human hearts. Practitioner Su is not affected by these things. He sees clearly which situations of people can be saved and which cannot. If they can be saved, save them; if they cannot be saved, let them go! This is a smart approach. Practitioner Su, it really is only like this.

You have been saving the human world, but if one's own firm attachments and subjectivity are unwilling to be let go, your Buddha-heart, Buddha-actions, and Buddha-vows cannot enter his heart, and you cannot break the demon nature in his heart. Alas, even the Buddha-words of Namo Amituofo can only be shelved and are of no use, or even rejected—they don't want to listen to the Buddha-words. Such people have indeed deeply hurt themselves. To save them, one must see if they have this karmic fortune and if they have the heart to save themselves.

Based on the Buddhist education currently being implemented at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, it is of great help to practice because it is the fastest method to help purify the six roots. Why? Here, you can receive the Buddha-words of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas and the teachings of ancestral masters everywhere. Even on both sides of the Amitabha Lecture Hall, there are many white porcelain statues of three figures that look like little novices. In fact, these three are all Buddhas. This is what I saw in the Western Dharma-Nature Land, and I couldn't help but smile. The Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are of great compassion; their spirits are right there, looking after the fourfold community of disciples and teaching them.

If those who can receive messages from the Buddha, the Teacher, and beings by opening the space at this time can go and seek guidance from them. Practitioner Su has billions of transformation bodies, and the Buddha also has billions of transformation bodies. Every one of the immeasurable and boundless Buddhas has billions of transformation bodies. And among them, Namo Amituofo, the most honoured among the light and the King among Buddhas, is right here at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia. This is truly a tremendous blessing for the human world of the Earth and the Saha world, and even for the beings of the ten directions of the Dharma Realm. Because you are quite close to here, although for demon crowds with deep skills, they can also reach the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre very quickly, but it is always far away.

If you don't know about the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, it is impossible and there is no opportunity to enter here. Therefore, for practitioners in the human world, if you want to find back your original true nature, recognise that the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss is extremely magnificent and beautiful, and want to enter the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, you can rely on the methods passed down and taught by the past Pure Land Dharma gates, practice steadily, and verify and practice, and you will also be able to achieve something. Just like Practitioner Su, who followed the teachings of Venerable Master Chin Kung, step by step, not watching TV or reading newspapers or magazines for five years, practicing diligently and purifying himself to open his eyes and see his true nature.

Therefore, the teachings of the ancestral masters have their importance and can lead to achievements, but the learners must be obedient and follow instructions—that is, be willing to accept learning and learn honestly. Looking at the root nature of beings in the current Dharma-ending age, those who can listen, truly listen, and achieve something are rare. There are not many, I cannot say there are none. Practitioner Su is right here, so I cannot say there are none. However, besides Practitioner Su, how many people can get such benefits? Perhaps it can be said that under the teaching of the past Pure Land Dharma gates, the number of people who want to practice and achieve something to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss is quite limited, and the opportunity is also slim. Please forgive me for speaking directly.

Now, if you clearly understand that Namo Amituofo is abiding at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, those with wisdom should come quickly to seek the Dharma and get close. The biggest beneficiary is yourself. Because practicing here or learning well with Practitioner Su, you can have the opportunity to find back your true nature; and even be able to chant the Buddha's name well, cultivate the Buddha-name Samadhi Dharani, and have the opportunity to come and go freely in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. Or after passing away, seek Spiritual Deliverance and ask Practitioner Su to lead your spirit to the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. In this way, your great matter of life and death is in your own hands; you don't have to worry about not being able to reach the West, and you don't have to rely on others. Relying on others to chant for you to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss is a very unreliable thing.

How many people can be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss because of chanting for the deceased? If Practitioner Su is present at the chanting, then it is possible. Otherwise, if the chanters put themselves first, thinking 'I am great', or have heavy selfishness, although they participated in the group chanting for the deceased, the effect of the chanting is limited. And at the moment of chanting the Buddha's name, is the heart of the chanter pure? Do they have practice and virtue? Or is the deceased being chanted for willing to accept the merit of the Buddha's name and chant the Buddha's name to let the Buddha come to lead them to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss? Various factors are difficult to be complete, leading to the fact that there are very few people reborn in the West at present. This is also the situation of the Pure Land Learning Centres or those who learn the Pure Land Dharma gates that I have observed during my time in the Western Dharma-Nature Land.

The Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre has only been established for a few years, and it has already saved immeasurable and boundless demon crowds and beings. Many beings have been saved to the human world or the heavenly world. Especially Practitioner Su's billions of transformation bodies saving them, with the help of Namo Amituofo, has saved countless demon crowds. The scene is very vast. This can be seen at the Thrice Yearning Ceremony.

The creatures of the earth, the crawling and flying beings, the insects, ants, birds, and beasts have been stripped of their outer garments by the Buddha and Practitioner Su and restored to human form. It is truly inconceivable! At that time, their spirits were still dim and confused. Under the illumination of the Buddha-light, they became a little clearer. But if one says that they can be reborn in the heavenly world because of this, that is too far away. Most of them are reborn in the human world. This is already the Buddha's blessing and is a very great grace; otherwise, how could the crawling and flying beings so easily escape this space? They might not be able to come out even for hundreds of millions of years.

Why can I speak of 'hundreds of millions of years'? Because I have seen some crawling and flying beings on Earth that have been crawling and flying for a very long time. Fossils exist on Earth, buried deep underground, or excavated and placed in museums for people to watch. Many fossils are very old. Before they became fossils, they were also living bodies, with life and spirit. Where is this spirit now? I want to tell everyone that some spirits are still locked in the space at that time; only their bodies have become fossils, which were found by later generations and displayed for everyone to see.

Over the years, dinosaur fossils have been exhibited. When dinosaurs were active, where is their spirit now? Now that the dinosaur body has become a fossil, where is the dinosaur spirit? I tell everyone, Mo Ru Xi has seen many spirits still in the space at that time. That is a spiritual space, without a body, but it is still a spirit. One spirit is in the shape of a dinosaur. These dinosaur spirits also have their true nature, and they have also been high-level spirits in this world or other places, and then the spirit was reborn and received a body on Earth, and was reborn in the body of a dinosaur.

After the dinosaur body died, where did this spirit go? Some have already reincarnated, but there are still many spirits still in the dinosaur space. If there is no illumination of Buddha-light and the Buddha-name penetrating the space, the dinosaur spirit cannot come out! These are some things about dinosaurs in the Jurassic and Cretaceous periods, trillions of years ago.

Many people should be interested in these dinosaur periods, right? Everyone is not unfamiliar with dinosaurs. Do you know that some of you in your past lives were one of the dinosaur spirits in the Jurassic and Cretaceous periods? This shows that the life of the spirit is beginningless and endless! This is also telling the public: this is the situation where a spirit enters a space and cannot come out for trillions of years. This is the situation I saw in your Alaya consciousness.

The past is like this; how will the future develop? It is unknown. We can see the situation of these past lives because it is clearly recorded in everyone's Alaya consciousness. But what about the future? That has variables. It depends on whether your actions can transform your karma. For those who cannot transform their karma, we can also see their future; for those who can transform their karma, their future cannot be predicted accurately!

The fourfold community of disciples at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, you are the lucky ones among the lucky ones. The future cannot be predicted, because perhaps one thought of yours turns, you listen, and you become a Buddha. This is possible. This matter is impossible in places other than the Buddhist temple, because there is no Buddha there, so it is very difficult to achieve the Buddha's path.

Unless a Buddha or Bodhisattva of great compassion observes that the causal conditions are mature and goes to the local area to manifest and achieve the Buddha's path, that is the great blessing of the local beings. Besides this, how can one become a Buddha where there is no Buddha? Beings are pressing each other with suffering; they are too busy suffering to have any way to leave suffering or practice, and how can they encounter a high master or a Buddha or Bodhisattva to teach them how to become a Buddha during their practice? This is truly 'the most difficult among difficulties, there is no difficulty greater than this.' These difficulties are now automatically dissolved at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre; they do not exist, and it is not difficult at all. But when it comes to people's hearts, it is difficult.

Even if the Buddha-light can grind away and eliminate the demon nature of ancient demons, people's attachments—my view and my ego—are still as firm as a mountain under the constant illumination of the Buddha-light. They do not listen, and even accept the control of the demon nature of the demon crowds, becoming even worse than before. This is called 'regression in practice'. This can be seen in people.

Practitioner Su, it is fortunate that you are Practitioner Su; otherwise, facing the current situation, you would really be defeated. Externally, there is the magic attack of the demon crowds; internally, there are the changes in people's character, living in impermanence. Being attacked from both inside and outside, you can still stand tall.

Even if your legs cannot walk, you still drag your legs and take big steps forward, leaving the demon crowds stunned. People's firm attachments, delusions, discriminations, and the problem of not being able to become a Buddha—you want to get rid of all these problems for them, so that they can become a Buddha; but they still have firm attachments. I hope that one day, everyone can let go of their own 'my view' and 'my ego', firm delusions, discriminations, attachments, and messy thoughts, and let them go completely clean. Just like us demon crowds in the Western Dharma-Nature Land—whether big demons, little demons, old demons, or ancient demons—everyone is very obedient. Then there is a chance to become a Buddha.

Only after suffering do you know how good it is not to suffer, and how precious it is to be able to practice the Buddha's teachings and diligently seek the path! This is the inner voice of many of our ancient and old demons. So, we are very serious. When listening to the Dharma, absolutely no one will doze off. Everyone is afraid of missing a word or a character, losing the great benefit of purification. Everyone stretches their ears to listen respectfully; during the morning service of prostrating to the Buddha, chanting the Buddha's name, and reciting the Sutras, everyone is full of energy. The main thing is to look at the heart; everyone's heart is very diligent. I hope to grasp every Buddha-name, every prostration, or every sentence of the Sutras recited, to purify one's own spirit and wash away the filth of the past as soon as possible.

Under the constant illumination of the Buddha-light, the demon crowds in the Western Dharma-Nature Land can all show smiles, knowing how difficult it is to be in this environment at this time, so they are courageous and diligent, very courageous and diligent, especially chanting the Buddha's name, chanting one Buddha-name to the end. Furthermore, Practitioner Su recently told us, 'I am a Buddha, a Buddha who came to save people,' which made us very excited in our hearts. So, I am a Buddha, and I can come to save people, to be a Buddha who saves people.

Although I was an ancient demon with heavy sins in the past, from this moment on, I can become a Buddha. I am working hard, full of hope. Thanks to Practitioner Su's teachings. These things can absolutely be used in the human world and can absolutely help the fourfold community of disciples to remove filth and gain purity, and soon realise their true nature and achieve the Buddha's path. There are also demon crowds in the Dharma Realm who can hear what I, Mo Ru Xi—an ancient demon of twenty-nine billion billion trillion years—have said at this time or later. You will know how precious it is to be able to hear what I say. Listen to it! Don't let it pass by your ears again.

Stop using magic against Practitioner Su quickly. The biggest beneficiary is yourself; you will not suffer the retribution of cause and effect. Furthermore, Practitioner Su is of great compassion. Even if he is attacked by the magic of the demon crowds, he still invites you into the Dharma-Nature Land. That is, the place where I, Mo Ru Xi, am currently, the Western Dharma-Nature Land, which allows the demon crowds to have the opportunity to listen to the Dharma and change their ways to Goodness. I am already grateful to Practitioner Su; how could I use magic against Practitioner Su!

Well, after entering the Western Dharma-Nature Land of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, I have said many things I have seen and heard. I hope that what I have said can be of some help to everyone. That can be considered as being filial to Namo Amituofo, and not failing Namo Amituofo for giving me the opportunity to say these words. Thanks to Namo Amituofo, thanks to the Teacher Practitioner Xia Lianju, thanks to Practitioner Su, and thanks to the fourfold community of disciples of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre.

Only with Namo Amituofo is there the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre; only with Practitioner Su is there the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. Every one of us ancient and old demons admires them very much and is also very grateful.

Namo Amituofo.

Ancient Demon, Mo Ru Xi"