The Truth Within the Cells

Interviews with Spirits and Practitioners at Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre

Recorded on February 27, 2018

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Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 8:00 AM

Interview with Venerable Chang Gao | Chief Writer: Cao Rudi

Venerable Chang Gao speaks:

"I travelled across vast mountains and rugged ridges, eventually arriving at a desolate peak. Looking out, I saw a landscape of absolute stillness, as if it were a city of the dead. I wondered why our Master had led us here—what special message or lesson was hidden in this place? Our group continued forward, but the surroundings were devoid of any life. There were no pedestrians on the road; it was so quiet that you could hear the sound of a fly buzzing past. Suddenly, in the blink of an eye, a pool of blood appeared before our eyes. Thousands of heads were churning within the pool, and the air was filled with wailing. Then, I heard a sharp, piercing voice calling out the name of the 'boss'—Zhuang Yanjia."

A Journey Through the Silent City

"Although the voice was not calling for 'Xi Jinpin,' every one of us knew clearly that this was a karmic creditor from the boss's past life. The name being called was the boss's name from that previous existence. The cries were so tragic and piercing that the boss lowered his head as far as he could, not daring to approach the blood pool to ask what debt was owed. I saw the terror in the boss's eyes as he hurried onward. There were over a hundred such purgatories, and the Master allowed us to observe them as quickly as possible. When one encounters their own on the road, the creditors know it instantly. Every detail of our lives is governed by the laws of and cause and effect.

I feel so fortunate that, although I have not yet reached the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, I have at least distanced myself from the three lower realms. I am even more grateful that, through the causal conditions of Venerable Chang Ren, I was able to reunite with my teacher and have the opportunity to reach the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss."

A Butler's Eternal Regret

"My responsibility is to watch over the 'boss,' so naturally, my attention remained fixed on him. At that moment, I saw the boss trembling, holding the hands of a thin, withered old man, weeping as he apologised. The old man was the boss's old butler from a past life. Back then, in his attempt to protect his young master, the butler lost his sense of right and wrong. His blind loyalty caused his master to plant negative causes and evil consequences, and he himself bore the heavy sins of hell—starving and swallowing iron pellets, drinking molten iron—unable to escape for hundreds of years. Meeting his young master in hell today, he was already mute and could not speak; he could only weep, his heart unable to calm down after such a long time.

Back in reality, the boss was still shaken by the vividness of the dream. He could not help but wake his wife, who was sleeping beside him, to share what he had experienced. It was still dark, but the boss spoke with such clarity that it did not feel like an ordinary dream. His wife decided that when morning came, she would go online to find out what kind of temple the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre really was. Why did it leave such a deep impression on the boss, appearing in his dreams day after day? I will observe the wife's situation today and report back to the Master. Namo Amituofo!"

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 8:20 AM

Interview with Venerable Chang Ren | Chief Writer: Shi Faxi

Venerable Faxi: "Venerable Chang Ren, Namo Amituofo."

Venerable Chang Ren speaks:

"Every day, the grandmother's power doubles. Because of the expansion of her mind-capacity, everything she wants to do becomes possible! I know that the grandmother is using every method to open the space of the bodies and spirits of these individuals. Every morning, she helps them look at their space, visits their space, and interviews the sentient beings there. I know this is helpful in making their spiritual clearer. The grandmother works every day to help everyone remember these things, and she never asks for anything in return. I know this, and I absolutely support her with all my strength."

The Grandmother's Compassionate Work

"Ma Jun's condition is more stable today. When I saw Ma Jun sitting alone by the bed, his thoughts were truly on what he had just seen in his dream, but he would soon fall back asleep and forget it. I immediately woke Ma Jun up, letting him go to the bathroom unconsciously. When he came back and sat by the bed, I let Ma Jun take out paper and a pen, hoping he would write something down. Ma Jun unlocked his phone and looked at the notifications, but I knew he was truly exhausted. In truth, he no longer had much consciousness left; there were only slight impressions branded on his mind. The grandmother, in her , made the information about the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia appear in his mind. Ma Jun saw it. Now, I am also coordinating with the grandmother from afar, hoping to help Ma Jun quickly record these things. Likewise, the information on the internet must be kept accessible at all times. I will help with the connections, and the flow of information will only get better. This is what I know. Everyone must look towards Goodness. Namo Amituofo."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 8:24 AM

Interview with Lay Practitioner Gu Chongliang | Chief Writer: Shi Faxin

Gu Chongliang speaks:

"Today's morning was the most difficult for me to endure. Seeing so many sentient beings every day, the sight of thousands of heads rushing towards the West is already shocking. I never knew before that besides the human realm, all other things are also what people become. This made me feel a bit nauseous about the steak I had devoured in the past. It turns out that I, too, was once a butcher, living in a bamboo hut in the mountains, raising cattle and pigs. The cattle were gentle, while the pigs were more restless. Neighbours from a hundred miles around would come to order beef or pork from me during festivals, especially during the Lunar New Year, when everyone valued offering a pig's head to thank the Heavens.

The Butcher's

"During one Qingming Festival, a good friend ordered beef from me because his late father loved beef during his lifetime. I knew his father and he had always taken good care of our family, so I decided to slaughter the cow I was most proud of to offer to his father. This cow would often come very close to me when I visited them, and its eyes seemed to hold deep emotion. I only vaguely felt these things and didn't think much of it before I grabbed it and slaughtered it. It seemed very sad, but because I had already slaughtered so many cattle and pigs, I didn't pay much attention to its . Just like that, the best beef from that cow ended up on the altar for my friend's father. Only now do I know that this cow was a good friend of mine in a past life. Because he owed me some money and didn't pay it back in that life, he became the cow I raised later. I saw the images of us together in the past, and I cried so bitterly. I apologised to him and hoped he could go to the Western Land. The cow had already turned back into his human form; he just smiled at me and said, 'I don't blame you.' I cried so hard. I have never truly felt my own past so vividly. I am so grateful to the Master for helping us deliver fifty trillion sentient beings in our cells every day. Every cell has a deep connection with my past. If it weren't for these realisations today, I would not have such a profound feeling. I sincerely apologise to my fifty trillion cells. Please forgive the ignorance of the past Gu Chongliang. Today, I have encountered the Buddha's teachings; please help me work with the Master to save the world. I will surely weep in gratitude. Such sincere repentance has made me feel much clearer. Today, not only is my spirit clear, but my physical body is as well. The Master's breakthrough is truly remarkable."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 8:51 AM

Interview with Zou Enlai | Chief Writer: Cao Rudi

Zou Enlai speaks:

"Namo Amituofo! Over these past days, under the compassionate guidance of Practitioner Su, I have been deeply impressed by the terror of the hells and the suffering of sentient beings. Practitioner Su's compassion is not just for saving me; the karmic creditors I have accumulated over countless eons also need to be saved. From the past until now, Practitioner Su has always upheld the same philosophy of compassion in saving the world. This is a once-in-a-thousand-years opportunity for these karmic creditors to seek rebirth in the Western Land. Although the main task of this trip is to look after Mr. Li, my own journey through the hells has left me filled with emotion and gratitude for Practitioner Su's deliverance from the suffering of hell and the chance to be reborn in the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss. Having benefited myself, I hope that Mr. Li can also receive this blessing."

The Illusion of Worldly Power

"When I first met Practitioner Su, I was already a spirit. Fortunately, I still had a human body. If I can use my remaining life to do my small part to let sentient beings truly understand the True Teachings of the Pure Land and the boundless nature of the Buddha's teachings, that would be my wish. During today's trip to the hells, when we passed through the brain-gouging hell, a group of karmic creditors saw us passing by from afar. If it weren't for the jailers blocking them, they might have all pounced on us. I only heard the creditors shouting, 'Return my home, return my wife and children, return my country.' Every creditor was unrecognisable, their cries tragic and piercing. Seeing the endless wall of people, I finally realised how great and massive my karma was. I did not see any intention of repentance from Mr. Li; I only felt his fear. People are forgetful; they have long forgotten the karma they created in the past, but the reality is that the existence of karmic creditors is a fact. With high status and great power comes great karma. Mr. Li has not yet truly awakened to the fact that if he does not perform Buddhist work in his remaining life, the burden of cause and effect will not miss a single drop.

Yesterday, Practitioner Su mentioned Jiang Zemin, and I saw him too. If a person cannot master themselves, lying on a hospital bed in their old age, being manipulated by others, there is no dignity to speak of. A hero of his generation, if he does not have a healthy body in his old age, is worse than an ordinary person. Power is false, money is false, and the red dust of this world is also false. It is up to Mr. Li to decide whether he wants to be a puppet manipulated by others or to follow the footsteps of , using his remaining years to help sentient beings recognise the truly vast Buddha's teachings. It all depends on whether Mr. Li is awake. Practitioner Su's compassion also extends to Mr. Li's karmic creditors, trying her best to guide them to grasp the chance for rebirth in the Western Land, but she does not force them. What I can do is to help Mr. Li keep his right , but everything still depends on his own efforts and vow power to succeed."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 8:56 AM

Interview with Zhao Puchu - Daily Report | Chief Writer: Shi Facin

Zhao Puchu speaks:

It is often said that the gates of hell are crowded with monks and practitioners. I once thought this was merely a warning to encourage us to practice diligently, but I never imagined that these words described a literal reality. Especially in this current age where the flow like a river, greed, anger, ignorance, arrogance, and doubt fill the minds of many who call themselves practitioners or monastics. They do not realise that their own actions are paving a direct path to the hells, yet they remain smugly satisfied, believing their conduct to be perfectly righteous. There are few left who are willing to point out the true problems. Under such a cycle, the hells are overflowing. Every hall and every level is packed with those suffering retribution or waiting for their turn to suffer. If you observe carefully, you will find that many people share these same issues.

The Faces of Retribution

Today, Chairman Xi faced these suffering beings directly, asking them why they had come to the brain-gouging hell and what their identities were. Some replied that they were corporate CEOs, high-ranking government officials, defense officials, financial experts, scientists, principals, or teachers—every type of status was represented. Yet, they all shared a common trait: in order to gain more power, status, wealth, or prestige, they used their minds to calculate and frame others. Among them, political officials were the most numerous. For the sake of higher power and position, they would frame, slander, and stop at nothing to achieve their ends. They did not know that such enjoyment would last only a few decades, and after death, they would fall straight into the hells to receive their retribution. Only by seeing and interviewing them personally did the severity of the situation become clear. After hearing all their stories, Chairman Xi remained silent. The power of a great era requires someone with great strength to drive change. Different voices should be heard, and I believe that in his heart, he is already quietly calculating how to proceed.

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 9:08 AM

The Apple of the Western Pure Land: Practitioner Gu Chongliang

Chief Writer: Shi Faxin

Jobs speaks:

"Today, Chongliang is very sad. Every day, he mentions the sentient beings—one spirit, one story; immeasurable and boundless spirits, immeasurable and boundless stories. Yet, the common outcome for everyone is that they have now become spirits. The reason lies in their attachments and the entanglement of love and hatred. Thus, they have entered these spaces—what we call the space of the human body or the spaces within spaces—and they have all caused themselves to suffer. Everyone has different attachments; some are attached to emotion, some to wealth, and some to fame. Yet, they do not know that once the physical body is gone, they have nothing, and they must bear everything themselves. Revenge, revenge—after reincarnating, they have long forgotten the debts they owe, and they do not understand why their bodies have decayed so badly. Everything is simply a matter of the laws of karma and cause and effect. Chongliang feels ashamed of his past karma, and now, only the help of the Buddha’s teachings can repay these debts owed to the void. The number of sentient beings is immeasurable; this is the pain of samsara. Only now, with Amitabha Buddha residing in the world, can we truly be helped. Chongliang has vowed to carry this responsibility on his shoulders."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 9:10 AM

A Wake-up Call for Ma Yun

Chief Writer: Shi Faxi

Venerable Faxi: Ma Yun, Namo Amituofo.

Ma Yun speaks:

"Venerable, you are truly incredible. You have struck right at the heart of our issues. Every day and night, you lead us to investigate many places, watching the outcomes of many figures. The fates of many high-ranking officials and nobles are not good. You showed us this to make us wake up. In truth, I also know that I am not living happily, and I am ill. Even with money, I cannot avoid these outcomes. In my career, I have given my all, but sometimes I did not know that I was creating karma. You let me see these things, and it has truly helped me have a chance to live again. Every great figure eventually walks the path of illness. Because of you, I have been able to stop that path of illness in time. My body is truly better now, but I still need to be more clear-minded. I have already seen the news on the internet, but it is not yet clear enough. At most, I know this is a Buddhist group—very dignified and cool. In Australia, a land I know I would like, I know that every day you are using every method to try to help me. My heart is very sincere; now, the only thing missing is 'clarity.' If I can remember this after waking up, I will definitely support everyone. The gap lies in clearly knowing the direction and clearly knowing that the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia needs to build a temple. These are things that cannot be seen on the internet. Having looked at the internet, I currently only respect such a group for truly practicing in a pure and cool way. I will keep myself in a state of purification, and I dare not think of other thoughts for now. I will change as quickly as possible and schedule a meeting with everyone. Venerable, I will definitely meet with you. Namo Amituofo."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 9:30 AM

Daily Report: Master Sheng Chang

Chief Writer: Shi Hailiang

Venerable Hailiang: Hailiang bows and respectfully invites Master Sheng Chang. Master, how is Gu Chongliang different today?

Master Sheng Chang speaks:

"Practitioner Su led these generals and monastics in morning walking meditation. Today was different from usual. Practitioner Su always brings everyone a different experience. Of course, every one of the fifty trillion cells in is being purified through chanting Amitabha Buddha. A few days ago, Practitioner Su returned the three hun souls and seven po souls to each person's physical body, and they all followed Practitioner Su in and interviews. Gu Chongliang has a tall stature, but his courage is actually not very large. He understands that his Teacher's skills are truly national treasures. Chao Du is not a simple matter, as one can imagine. Even now, Chongliang feels moved in his heart. Why was it that in the past, he was clearly a monastic practicing well, but now, because of the Five Turbidities and Evil World and his own insatiable greed, he has become unrecognizable? No wonder when Chongliang exercises, he does not think about work; without thoughts, he feels relaxed and happy. Especially when playing ball, I remind Gu Chongliang to chant Amitabha Buddha, which helps his character stabilize a bit more each time, gradually helping him find his past. At the same time, I see that Gu Chongliang's fifty trillion cells are very intelligent; some are seizing the opportunity to choose to leave his body. Whether watching Practitioner Su perform Chao Du for spirits in deep mountains, the seabed, or the hells, every experience this morning moved Gu Chongliang to tears. Gu Chongliang is in good condition; as long as he does not think too much, he is fine. He still looks forward to meeting Practitioner Su as soon as possible. At this upcoming Qingming assembly in Taiwan, he will be able to see his Teacher."

Venerable Hailiang: Gratitude to Master Sheng Chang for always being so attentive. Namo Amituofo.

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 10:37 AM

Daily Report: Li Guangyao

Chief Writer: Shi Facin

Li Guangyao speaks:

"After these days of purification and Chao Du, combined with recovering the memories of his past practice, his temperament has begun to change slowly. It is not very rapid, but those who know him can clearly feel this change. Ma Yun has a certain influence on China and even the world; after all, he is considered a successful business legend. Every word and action of his is analyzed and studied by the public, hoping to achieve the same success. The words he speaks need to be handled with extra caution; an incomplete sentence could be misunderstood or interpreted with other intentions by others. If he can promote this through his own influence, it would be a great sign for the temple. Without needing to deliberately emphasize or promote it, if he just casually mentions that there is such an inconceivable temple or place, even if he has not experienced it personally, because of the trust people have in Ma Yun's words, many interested people will come to explore and investigate. This can also be considered a way to slowly narrow the distance between us and Ma Yun."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 11:00 AM

Daily Report: Mr. Li Keqiang

Chief Writer: Shi Fajing

Venerable Fajing: Respectfully inviting Mr. Li Keqiang, Namo Amituofo.

Li Keqiang speaks:

"My birth was not blessed because the society at that time was turbulent and unstable. My mother endured ten months of pregnancy to bring me into the world. I came into this world wailing loudly; the friction between my skin and the air made me feel uncomfortable. My mother's warm hands held me to her chest, and the warm current of family affection flowed from my heart to my whole body. The hallucinogenic drug of the worldly realm began from there.

Family affection holds a place in my heart. The blood of kinship flows in my body, I live in a house of shared memories, and I walk on the land I once stepped upon. These various memories keep family affection constantly tugging at my heart. This is a very normal thing, and there is nothing wrong with it. But only now do I realize that all of this is an illusion of the worldly realm.

Today, I came to an old-fashioned Chinese teahouse. Many people were happily drinking tea inside, laughing and chatting to their hearts' content. A moment later, I looked at this scene again, and everyone had vanished into thin air, leaving only empty tables and chairs. I walked over and touched these wooden tables, which still bore the marks of cups and plates from the past—a very old and ancient atmosphere.

At this moment, the table began to speak to me. It said it used to be a regular here, coming several times a day—sometimes to drink tea, sometimes to play games and gamble a little money. This was an environment it was all too familiar with. I never imagined that this table and chair, where I sat most often, would become my space after death. In this space, there are still many people coming and going in the teahouse, and it is very lively every day, but in reality, this teahouse has long been buried in the dirt.

My heart is deeply stirred. One lifetime in the world, and after death, entering a space—a thousand years, a hundred years, still in the space. What is the meaning of this life? And where is the affection between my mother and me now?

A lifetime is but a few decades. I should not waste my life anymore. I understand that I must seize this opportunity to leave behind Buddha-seeds for the world, allowing people to escape through the lifeline of the Buddha’s teachings."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 1:17 PM

Daily Report: Venerable Yongning

Chief Writer: Shi Fajing

Venerable Fajing: Respectfully inviting Venerable Yongning, Namo Amituofo.

Venerable Yongning: "Today, Keqiang has truly come to understand the meaning of 'space.' Within the consciousness of his mind, there are countless scenes of memories—some left behind inadvertently, some representing deeply etched episodes of his life, and others reflecting past traumas. These memories are all individual spaces, and it turns out that Keqiang has frequently been immersed in these self-created spaces. Through the interviews over these past few days, Keqiang has personally engaged in dialogue with the myriad beings within these spaces. Only then did he realise the terror of being trapped in such spaces. Without the guidance of the Buddha’s teachings and the compassionate deliverance of Namo Amituofo, no one could ever escape their own spaces. Only this holy name, 'Namo Amituofo,' can transcend space and time to save immeasurable and boundless sentient beings."

"Keqiang’s heart is trembling with emotion. He has vowed that the Buddha’s teachings should be widely spread into every family and every corner of society. The world cannot be without the Buddha’s teachings, and the Buddha’s teachings must be present in the world. The darkness of the world needs the illumination of the Buddha-light, and the distress within the hearts of the people needs the comfort of the Buddha’s teachings. Everyone should join together in pursuing the goal of rebirth in the Western Pure Land and should no longer cling to anything here in this world."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 1:29 PM

The Awakening of Ma Yun

Daily Report on the Interview with Great Master Ou-Yi — Chief Writer: Venerable Fajing

Venerable Fajing: "Respectfully inviting Great Master Ou-Yi, Namo Amituofo."

Great Master Ou-Yi: "To open the doors of the temple, Changren has been actively pushing and helping Ma Yun to wake up sooner. Now, Ma Yun clearly understands a truth: there is no permanent world. No matter how wealthy one is in life, one still cannot escape the that comes to collect. This remains true unless one walks the righteous path of the Buddha’s teachings with impartiality, purity, goodness, and sincerity. Ma Yun is also a clever person. Under the guidance of Practitioner Su over these past few days, he has already understood the terrifying nature of the laws of karma and cause and effect—that creating good causes leads to good fruits. As Ma Yun reviewed the causes and effects he has created in this life, his legs could not help but tremble slightly. The retribution that must be repaid is coming to collect one by one. In particular, when he personally interviewed his own prostate, which has frequently caused him obstacles, he heard many, many women screaming incessantly. They were screams of , for their 'young master' was actually able to speak with them. Each one was scrambling to have a word with him. Ma Yun was so frightened that he took three steps back, unable to believe that these past events were still within his own body, alive and waiting for him. The wisdom of Practitioner Su allowed him to dialogue with these spaces, truly understanding many truths and the magnificent importance of the Buddha’s teachings."

Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 4:42 PM

The Karmic Connections of Gu Chongliang

Daily Report on the Interview with Living Buddha Jinshan — Chief Writer: Venerable Hailiang

Venerable Hailiang: "With palms pressed together, I respectfully invite Living Buddha Jinshan. May I ask how the situation is currently with Gu Chongliang?"

Living Buddha Jinshan: "Gu Chongliang has been receiving daily teachings from Practitioner Su, which have awakened the pure, compassionate, and dignified image of his past life as a monk within his . Only then did he realise that the of this life all came from the virtues accumulated in past lives. Therefore, he no longer dares to complain much about the lack of smoothness in this life; everything is his own doing. Gu Chongliang has the tremendous blessing of encountering Practitioner Su and forming a good cause. He also understands the compassion Practitioner Su has shown toward his fifty trillion cells. I saw that when Gu Chongliang was to interview his karmic creditors today, he felt some resistance in his heart. I saw him thinking to himself: 'Suddenly, a traditional four-sided courtyard appeared right beside him. Someone made a sound that made Gu Chongliang feel a bit uneasy: "Save... me, save... me, everyone is waiting for you to save us. I am your steward, A-Tu. Ever since you, young master, left, we have all been helping you look after the house."' He was truly a bit afraid, but he couldn't help but turn back to look, though he saw nothing. He asked me to help him write a memorial tablet for their deliverance. Gu Chongliang’s heart ached, and tears fell. The name 'Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia' frequently appears in his mind. I believe that Gu Chongliang will have a miraculous encounter at the Qingming Ancestor Worship Dharma Assembly in Taiwan."

"In Gu Chongliang’s mind, there seems to be a memory that he must go to see the Master and that he must chant the Buddha’s name. Practitioner Su will awaken the wisdom within Gu Chongliang’s Alaya consciousness, so that he may soon assist the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia with money or effort."

Venerable Hailiang: "Gratitude to Living Buddha Jinshan for your assistance. Namo Amituofo."

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