Interview with Lee Shau-kee (Former Richest Man in Asia)

Interview. Chief Writer: Venerable Fa Hui

27 June 2026

Lee Shau-kee:

Namo Amituofo. On the Western Land of Dharma Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, this past month has truly broadened my horizons. The mysteries of the spiritual realm have been laid out before me one by one during this time.

I am Lee Shau-kee, a well-known property tycoon, once ranked as the richest man in Asia; this was a manifestation of my life's achievements. Throughout my life, I knew how to earn money and how to spend it; when wealth accumulates sufficiently, one must understand the 'Way of Virtuous Wealth'. Investing in public welfare and charity is indeed a good choice, though at times, my unique business mindset as a merchant was mixed in.

Regardless, to me, a successful tycoon must be someone who knows how to spend money well, for how to make the best use of such wealth is truly a discipline!

Many call me the 'God of Stocks', but in the financial market, where is there a person who only wins battles and never loses? I have always viewed all of this with a very detached mindset. I believe that a person should control wealth, not be controlled by it. If one enters the stock market but their heart is affected by the trends of wealth or price fluctuations, I think they have lost the foundation.

Now, on the Western Land of Dharma Nature at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, I have truly seen that a person's 'heart' is so important; it can determine whether they enter heaven or hell after death. If one cultivates their heart to be pure and good, they can even go to a better place.

If one can enter the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, that is, of course, the best. Because that is the Western Buddha-land established by Namo Amituofo, where one will possess an eternal spiritual life, without suffering, only happiness; it is a world of eternal light and ultimate bliss.

At this moment, this Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss is also the place where I, Lee Shau-kee, will go in the future. Because the Land of Dharma Nature where I am now is a transit station to the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, a Buddha-land established by my benefactor, Practitioner Su.

I have often heard of Taiwan. Taiwan is a precious land that has nurtured many talents, but I never imagined that Taiwan could have a Practitioner Su Yue-e, who realised her true nature and attained Buddhahood while in a human body; this is truly an incredible achievement! Attaining Buddhahood is not simple; it requires putting in the work on one's heart, ensuring it reaches complete purity and goodness, without a single evil thought, with only sentient beings in one's heart and no 'self'.

Everyone can ask themselves: are you willing to sacrifice your life for sentient beings? I think many people cannot do this, yet Practitioner Su is always holding such a determination to save sentient beings.

On the Land of Dharma Nature, I clearly saw Practitioner Su, with her countless manifestations, transforming into immeasurable and boundless golden light, shining across the skies of every country on Earth. She led Namo Amituofo to emit massive golden light, guiding immeasurable and boundless suffering spirits from every corner of the world, and even saving spirits from countless spaces. The power of this Buddha-name is truly inconceivable.

Practitioner Su is truly a good student of Namo Amituofo, utilising the six-character name 'Namo Amituofo' to its fullest extent. When I saw these scenes, I was truly wide-eyed and astonished. I never knew that we humans had such great potential to have such a substantial impact on the spiritual realms and the human world; this is truly unprecedented and unheard of.

After listening to Practitioner Su's Dharma talks, I realised that everyone is a Buddha. In our self-nature, we originally possess the same power and wisdom as a Buddha, but it has been covered up by the pollution of this world, which is why purification is needed. We need to use the supreme merit of this 'Namo Amituofo' to continuously purify the pollution within our body, mind, and spirit. This represents the external spirits that have attached themselves to us since birth, as well as the karmic creditors within our bodies that have been awakened.

It turns out that within everyone's body, there are so many karmic creditors to whom we owe debts from the past, or spirits with whom we have formed good affinities. Regardless, if one cannot receive Buddhist education from a young age, it is difficult to coexist peacefully with so many spirits within the body, as most of them are karmic creditors whom we have harmed in the past.

Although they were originally in a dormant state, if a child does not receive Buddhist education after birth, and their thoughts and behaviours are misguided without correction, it will only cause the karmic creditors within their body to continue to awaken, and may even attract many external spirits to attach themselves. This is a very serious problem. Most people, because their parents did not study Buddhism, never knew the principles of the Law of Cause and Effect and have no clear concept of right and wrong, merely making decisions based on the preferences and feelings of the body.

This is what is called 'drifting according to karma'. Where is karma? It turns out it is within one's own body. Therefore, in Buddhism, the human body is also called a 'karmic retribution body', because the immeasurable and boundless good or negative karma created in the past is all stored in the cellular space of the body.

It is unexpected that the human body is a vast universe. The best way to manage this universe is to fix the heart on this 'Namo Amituofo', which is the essence of the Pure Land Dharma Gate:

1. Mindset when chanting the Buddha's name:
   If, when chanting the Buddha-name, the heart does not hold compassion for the spirits within the body, but is chanting for one's own body, the true effect of this Buddha-name cannot be exerted.
2. The heart is the master:
   The heart is the foundation of everything; its power can be small or infinitely large. The heart is the master of the body, mind, and spirit, and plays a key role.
3. The effect of compassion:
   If one can hold a heart of compassion, hoping to help sentient beings attain true liberation, chanting the Buddha's name in this state of mind will exert a tremendous effect.

I have always loved doing public welfare. When doing so, if circumstances permit, I believe that rather than directly giving large sums of money, it is better to cultivate their ability to be self-sufficient or self-reliant, such as teaching professional skills. I feel this is a more long-term approach that helps them more. Therefore, doing public welfare also requires a brain; helping people is not done casually, but requires wisdom.

This is something I have always firmly believed. And now, on the Land of Dharma Nature, when I learned that Namo Amituofo has come to this world and is residing at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, to bring the benefits of 'not grow old, not get sick, and the spirit does not die' to the people of the world, and to help everyone be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss, I truly feel some regret.

If I were still alive, I would surely invest all my assets into this great salvation cause. Because the objects of salvation are all the humans on Earth, as well as immeasurable and boundless spirits, and I am one of those sentient beings. Saving sentient beings is equivalent to saving oneself; I understand this principle, as we are all one. It is impossible for a person to stay out of trouble alone, and it is impossible to keep all the benefits for oneself or one's family; that will only lead to a huge bitter fruit in the end. Just as I said when I was alive, I have always believed that when a person has money to a certain extent, the funds and resources we can use do not belong to us personally or our family; in some part, they belong to society. This includes a mindset of taking from society and giving back to society. If one earns a large amount of money but lets it all flow back into the capital market, it is equivalent to letting this pool of water rot, and in the end, it will certainly not be a good outcome.

Regarding the salvation cause currently being carried out by the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, the number of spirits being saved is immeasurable and boundless, impossible to calculate. In terms of the human world, it can better help everyone avoid the suffering of aging, sickness, and death. Especially for the next generation of children, or newborn babies, if they can receive Buddhist education and learn from a young age what the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way are, it is truly possible to cultivate a great many talents. This talent is not defined by how many professional skills they have or how good they are at making money; it is not defined from a secular perspective, but from the perspective of whether their heart is pure and good. Whether this child understands compassion, understands courtesy, or understands how to think for others, and even whether they have a firm vow to help everyone in the world leave suffering and gain happiness. These are all ways to judge whether this child is a true talent. A true talent has the potential to attain Buddhahood, because such a person's heart is full of compassion for sentient beings, understands the principle that sentient beings are all one, and is even more wise, understanding the principle that helping sentient beings is actually helping oneself.

Therefore, the oneness perspective taught in Buddhism is indeed very profound and contains very deep and broad wisdom. If one can invest in this salvation cause that pervades the entire Dharma-realm and empty space, I think this person's blessings are truly too great. It is a pity that it seems this person is not me, but at least I can still contribute a little effort here, taking this opportunity to appeal to everyone, especially those tycoons with assets comparable to mine, please support me so that I can support myself even more. How many good affinities can this Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre gain and form? Where else can such a good opportunity be found? If one has so much wealth but cannot invest in such a cause, I think it is truly a pity. After all, when assets reach our level, honestly, where are there so many places to use so much money? More often, these funds cannot be used in the best way and are often waiting for a good investment target. And now, if one encounters an investment target like the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, it is truly the best investment choice, and one should certainly hurry to invest vigorously.

Joining the Namo Amituofo salvation team at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre is a precious opportunity, because following the Buddha can help so many sentient beings, which also manifests the goodness in one's own heart. When I was on the Land of Dharma Nature, watching Practitioner Su continuously perform great Chao Du throughout China and even the entire Earth day and night, I was truly moved. Because I saw that there are so many lonely and helpless souls in the world; as for lonely wandering spirits, there are very, very many in China, and in many places, it feels so crowded that it is hard to describe, and there are even many ghost deities throughout China. In short, there is no place in the world where there are not many ghosts. And these souls are actually very miserable; in the ghost realm, they cannot be the master, just drifting along with their karma. Many of them are saved because of Practitioner Su's Chao Du. When Practitioner Su brought Namo Amituofo to various parts of China to emit massive golden light, too many sentient beings were illuminated by the golden light and were able to leave suffering behind. Many have already come to the Western Land of Dharma Nature and started their brand-new spiritual life.

In this life, I can say I started from scratch, experienced many storms, and created a huge business empire. This inevitably gave me a bit of an arrogant mindset; after all, if a person has money to a certain extent, there is really quite a lot one can do. But after death, these achievements, wealth, reputation, or any connections in the world are of no help at all. Because what the soul uses is completely different from what the body uses!

After I died, I entered the 'heart-gouging hell'. In this hell, my soul and my heart were constantly gouged open until death; after rebirth, they were constantly gouged open and died again, repeating this torture. This process was very painful, and I kept looking for ways to escape this painful hell.

I vaguely knew in my heart that when I truly understood how to repent, that would be when I could leave hell. It is a pity that I thought and thought but could not figure out what I had done wrong. After all, regarding the principles of karma, although I had heard of them, I had never really studied what kind of person would fall into hell.

In my view, I always thought that it must at least be someone who has committed the ten evils, right? But for me, I knew how to earn money and how to give in this life, did so much public welfare, and the annual donations were calculated in hundreds of millions of Hong Kong dollars. With such generous giving, and even for the employees of my own company, even when facing a crisis, I still took good care of them.

I think, as a merchant, at least I was quite conscientious. How could I have known that after death I would enter the heart-gouging hell to suffer retribution? This is truly something I cannot understand!

After receiving Buddhist education, I realised how important the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way are. It is not difficult to enter hell; if you hold a wrong thought or perform an action contrary to the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, you may enter hell to suffer retribution after death. I know this sounds chilling and may seem like fear-mongering. But I am telling you the truth of the facts as I have seen them. It is a strict standard, but it is absolutely fair, because in the laws of karma and cause and effect, nothing can be faked; it is perfectly just and impartial. Having created immeasurable negative karma in the past, even a single evil thought can cause countless karmic creditors to manifest and seek revenge, leading one to hell. Why does one wrong belief lead to the retribution of hell? You must ask yourself how many bad deeds you have done, how many people you have killed, or how many beings you have harmed. Everyone's situation is different, but what is the same is that the karma created by everyone in the past is immeasurable. These debts are within our own bodies; how to resolve them is a lifelong responsibility for each of us. Yet, this sense of responsibility is rarely cultivated from childhood. If not for the opportunity to receive Buddhist education at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre from a young age, how would one know to teach children to think well, speak well, do well, and see well, and to teach them to chant "Namo Amituofo"? Most importantly, one must cultivate a compassionate heart in children from a young age, as this is the foundation of everything. Where does a compassionate heart come from? It must be built on the foundation of the heart of renunciation. A person without a true heart of renunciation cannot possess a true compassionate heart, because only those who understand the suffering of this world and know they must leave it can understand the need to renounce this world. Those who understand how to renounce this world can let go of their greed and attachment to the various people and things in this world. Only after letting go of these attachments can one further develop a compassionate heart for all beings. Thus, a compassionate heart is truly rare. Every child is like an unpolished jade, waiting for a master who knows how to craft fine treasures to forge them. Now, Namo Amituofo and the Buddhas are such wise teachers. Because they are awakened beings who have attained Buddhahood, they truly understand the facts of life and the universe, and can clearly foresee and hear everything happening in this universe. The structure of the human body, and even how a person's mental notes affect the spirits within their body, are all clearly seen by Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su. So, if you encounter such a good teacher, you must hold on tight! If it were me, Lee Shau-kee, I would certainly spend a large sum to hire Practitioner Su to come to Hong Kong as an educator, so that Hong Kong's children could all learn the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way. But of course, Practitioner Su is not someone who craves money. After all, one who has attained Buddhahood has long since let go of everything in the world; everything done is entirely for the sake of allowing sentient beings to receive true benefits, so how could he crave the fame and wealth of this world? So, after thinking it over, I feel that for Hong Kong to have a wise teacher like Practitioner Su stationed here, it is not something that can be achieved with money or connections. It requires the people of Hong Kong and the beings in Hong Kong to have sufficient blessings, and for their good roots, karmic fortune, and Causal Conditions to be complete! After all, when a Buddha comes to a place, the most direct change brought to the people there is that they all have the opportunity to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. This is no ordinary matter! After all, rebirth in the Western Pure Land is what many dream of, but how many can truly be reborn there? Australia is truly blessed. After all, the place where Namo Amituofo first descended and abides is in the small town of Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia. Because of the Buddha's arrival, a vast number of spirits throughout Australia have been saved. After listening to the sutras and hearing the Dharma, I understand that even the long-term drought in Australia and the previous COVID-19 pandemic were resolved and eased due to the help of Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su. In the process of saving the world, Practitioner Su has paid a considerable price, and his body has suffered some damage; yet Practitioner Su remains filled with Dharma joy, because the Buddha only hopes that sentient beings can be saved, never considering his own gains or losses. Namo Amituofo has come to this world to help all people truly receive the real benefit of rebirth in the Western Pure Land, and also to be free from aging, free from illness, and for the spirit to never die. Such benefits await everyone who comes to seek the Dharma. Now, Namo Amituofo is shining brightly at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia, waiting to welcome sentient beings with karmic affinity from the ten directions. Whether from the spiritual realm or the human world, as long as you come here, you can be saved. The longer I stay on the Dharma-Nature Land of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, the more I feel the magnificence and preciousness of the Buddha-land. Do the people of Hong Kong have the blessings to receive the grace of Namo Amituofo? This really depends on whether the people of Hong Kong have that karmic fortune. But I believe that since the Buddha has come to this world, he must intend to save all humanity on Earth. One day, the Causal Conditions will surely mature. Now, everyone should also work together to facilitate the maturation of these magnificent Causal Conditions. Contribute as much as you can to help the Dharma-spreading cause of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. After all, we are all part of the Earth; doing our part is also taking on a responsibility. As I mentioned before, doing charity and good deeds also requires Wisdom. Now, I, Lee Shau-kee, am thinking and discussing this as a citizen of Earth. The Dharma-spreading cause of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre will surely establish branches all over the world. After all, there are many people in every place who need to receive Buddhist education, so more talent is needed to represent the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre and go to various places to help the local people. This is not an easy task, and I think it should all be planned as soon as possible. So, I am calling on all Hong Kong people who have the opportunity to see this message to look further ahead and act quickly. If you believe, you should come here quickly, respectfully seek the Dharma, and learn with a humble and modest heart. It would be best to bring some young people along to seek the Dharma here, so that after they complete their studies, they can return to Hong Kong to establish a branch. When that time comes, the people of Hong Kong will truly be blessed, and perhaps there will even be a chance to invite Practitioner Su to come and provide guidance. That would truly be the time when all of Hong Kong shines brightly. The human body is truly "technology within technology"; this is what I learned after Practitioner Su attained Buddhahood. A person who attains Buddhahood can actually save so many spirits and help so many people, including healing the sick. Even for those with cancer, as long as they have not undergone surgery, Practitioner Su, with the immeasurable merit gained from Chao Du and the help of Namo Amituofo, can help them recover and heal from cancer. Such inconceivable things may seem like miracles, but they are actually operating within the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way. After all, I learned on the Dharma-Nature Land that the root of all illness lies in the spiritual realm. It is because of too many external attached spirits, and more importantly, the massive awakening of karmic creditors within the body seeking revenge, that a person's body develops illness. Especially for those with major illnesses like cancer, there must be countless karmic creditors within their bodies who have awakened and are angrily seeking revenge. To resolve these grievances one by one, or these deep-seated blood feuds, Practitioner Su is completely equal and compassionate towards all beings. To help a person heal from cancer by resolving these karmic knots truly requires immeasurable and boundless merit. Therefore, Practitioner Su is truly tireless for the sake of sentient beings, using the greatest momentum to actively and continuously perform Chao Du at every moment. While performing Chao Du, he has already saved immeasurable and boundless beings, and the immeasurable merit gained from Chao Du is used by Practitioner Su to save even more beings. This includes the need for massive merit when healing people to carry out the salvation of the world. Of course, the most critical factor is Namo Amituofo. Without the blessing of Namo Amituofo, many magnificent Causal Conditions would be difficult to mature. Now that the Buddha has come to this world, it is difficult to encounter in millions of years. Everyone must cherish this, and come quickly to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre to see what the Namo Amituofo salvation team is doing. Well, I have said so much today, so I, Lee Shau-kee, will stop here. Thank you all for your precious time in listening to me. I am the former richest man in Asia, Lee Shau-kee. At this moment, I am at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, living a beautiful and peaceful life on the Western Dharma-Nature Land. My future is in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. I hope everyone can also be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss like me, and we will meet in the West in the future. Gratitude to Namo Amituofo, gratitude to Practitioner Su, Namo Amituofo. [[BLOCK_1]]