The Infinite Dimensions of Dharma Body Deliverance
An Interview with Venerable Changren, Venerable Yongning, and Steve Jobs
Recorded at Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, March 17, 2018
This record documents interviews conducted on March 17, 2018, at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre. The speakers include Venerable Changren, Venerable Yongning, and the spirit of Steve Jobs, who sought deliverance through the sessions led by Practitioner Su. These testimonies, transcribed by chief writers Shi Faxi, Shi Fajing, and Shi Faxin, provide a rare glimpse into the multi-dimensional nature of spiritual deliverance and the transformative power of the True Teachings.
Venerable Changren speaks:
"Namo Amituofo. There are countless dimensions, an immeasurable Realm. Every layer is a manifestation of the true Dharma that speaks for itself. Only when one truly understands this does one realise that life in this world is not something to be clung to or pursued."
The Necessity of Opening Dimensions
"Every event in the world, whether large or small, is merely an incentive to enter these dimensions. It is a pity that most people do not understand why this is so. Now that these dimensions have been opened, the masses can benefit infinitely; this is the true Dharma that is needed in this current age. Every day, as the morning starlight fades, countless cosmic Bodhisattvas follow the dimensions of the Grandmother to perform salvation. Her Dharma Body manifests in myriad ways, delivering immeasurable spirits across boundless dimensions. This energy is of vital importance. I hope everyone can come to recognise this, as it is crucial for saving the world. I am sparing no effort in supporting the True Teachings, and Venerable Faxian is also working diligently. Namo Amituofo."
Venerable Yongning speaks:
"Namo Amituofo. The intensity of Practitioner Su's heart to save the world is truly unparalleled; it is unique from ancient times to the present. To perform Dharma Body deliverance, one must possess purity, meditative concentration, , and wisdom. One must be able to manifest in myriad ways, remaining unmoved by external conditions while being able to transform according to those conditions at will. Regardless of the time or space entered, the only goal is to ensure that all spirits can be saved. Such immense power can deliver an uncountable number of sentient beings."
The of Wuren
"Practitioner Su's Dharma Body leads the assembly forward, and Wuren follows closely. The various dimensions he has witnessed have broadened his horizons, and he has begun to open his heart. Wuren possesses worldly intelligence and has read thousands of books; it is not easy for his physical body to believe in the reality of Dharma Body deliverance, as he is prone to doubt. But now, his spirit follows Practitioner Su in deliverance. Seeing is believing—everything he sees is a real existence within these dimensions, waiting to be saved. His heart has been deeply stirred. No one has ever taught him in this way before. He knows he is a fortunate person, and he cherishes every moment of these magnificent deliverance sessions, feeling moved beyond words. The propagation and transmission of the Buddha’s teachings require more people with vows to join in, to save others together, and to spread the Dharma in this world."
Steve Jobs speaks:
"Horses are galloping wildly. Today, Yinchuan saw his own past. He was once a horse, galloping across a vast grassland. He looked quite majestic—a greyish-brown colour with a very shiny coat. He saw that even as a horse, he was arrogant, possessing a sense of pride that no other horse could match. It turns out that in a previous life, he was a monastic. Because he relied on his own cleverness, and everyone praised his wisdom and agility, he became increasingly self-satisfied—so satisfied that he could not tolerate even a grain of sand."
The Weight of Past Habits
"At that time, his master had already passed the alms bowl to his senior brother. His senior brother appreciated his wisdom and asked him to assist other monastics. He became like a steward, pinning everyone down, forgetting the purity and gentleness that a practitioner should have. Although he was a monastic, his arrogance and self-satisfaction offended many people without him even realising it. This monastic later died of illness; after he fell ill, he could barely speak because he had truly hurt too many people with his words. The of this life found him before his life ended. When he closed his eyes in that life, he still did not understand where he had gone wrong. These various habits led him to become a horse in his next life—a handsome horse, but one with very poor relationships with others."
A Path Toward Clarity
"Seeing these past events has shocked Yinchuan. He did not know how terrifying these habits could be. He also saw the monastics he had offended in that life, some of whom were still clinging to him. He bowed and apologised to them, hoping they could be liberated, but the monastics did not forgive him. He could only continue to exert his greatest sincerity. What he saw today has made Yinchuan start to pay attention to his habits, bit by bit. This can be considered his greatest progress. The fewer habits one has, the less interference from sentient beings there will be. Today has helped him become much clearer. Namo Amituofo."
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