Finding the Path to True Awakening
An Interview with Ma Yun
This is a record of an interview with Ma Yun, who sought at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre in Australia. He reflects upon his journey toward spiritual and his recognition of the Centre's mission. This interview was recorded by the chief writer, Venerable Faxi, on February 27, 2018.
Venerable Faxi speaks: Ma Yun, Namo Amituofo.
Ma Yun speaks: "Namo Amituofo. Venerable, you are truly extraordinary. Your insight strikes right at the heart of our deepest vulnerabilities. Every day and night, you have guided us to travel to many realms to investigate the truth. You have shown us the ultimate outcomes for so many figures—even those who were once powerful dignitaries and aristocrats—and their ends were often far from peaceful. You let us see these things to ensure we would wake up from our delusions."
The Illusion of Wealth and Power
"To be honest, I have long known that I was not truly happy. Despite all the success, I have been suffering from illness. I have realised that no amount of wealth can prevent the inevitable decline of . In my professional life, I have always given my absolute best, pouring every ounce of my energy into my work. Yet, there were times when I did not even realise that I was accumulating negative through my actions. By allowing me to witness these truths, you have truly helped me. You have given me the precious opportunity to be reborn, in a sense, and to start living again.
Think about it—every great figure, no matter how influential, eventually finds themselves walking down the path of sickness and decay. It was only because of your guidance, Venerable, that I was able to stop that downward spiral in time. My physical health has genuinely improved, but I know that I still need to attain a much higher level of clarity and wisdom. I have seen the information circulating on the internet, but it is not yet clear enough. At most, I have understood that this is a group dedicated to the practice of Buddhism—a place that is truly dignified and filled with a refreshing, cooling energy."
A Sanctuary in Australia
"I have always felt a deep affinity for the land of Australia, and I know that you, Venerable, have been using every possible method to help me. My heart is sincere. The only thing missing now is that final spark of awakening—the ability to wake up and truly remember the path forward. I am certain that I will support everyone here. The current gap lies in clearly understanding the direction and in fully grasping the urgent need for the construction of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. These are details that cannot be found on the internet.
Having looked through the online information, I currently only possess a deep respect for this group and the truly pure, cooling practice you maintain. I will ensure that I keep myself in a state of purification. I dare not let my mind wander into other distractions right now. I will make the necessary changes as quickly as possible and arrange a schedule to meet with all of you. Venerable, I will definitely meet with you. Namo Amituofo."
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