This interview features Steve Jobs, who sought at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre in Australia. He now resides in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss. This account reflects his observations of the deliverance work performed by Practitioner Su. It was recorded by the chief writer, Shi Faxin, on August 10, 2019.
Steve Jobs speaks:
". I am Steve Jobs. When I look back at the journey of existence, I am struck by the sheer scale of the work being done here at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. It is not merely a local event; it is a cosmic realignment.
The Train of Deliverance
Imagine a train thundering through a mountain tunnel. The sheer force of its passage startles every creature within, shaking the very foundations of their environment. Each time the train passes, the ripple effect is profound. Along its route, this train traverses vastly different landscapes—some are lush with forests and blooming flowers, while others are barren, desolate wildernesses. The Chao Du performed by Practitioner Su is exactly like this high-speed train. It sweeps through every scene, touching every object and every life form along the way, saving them from their state of stagnation.
I have watched as different forms of life—beings who were once trapped in the struggle for survival, for their families, for their very existence—suddenly stop their frantic pacing. The butterflies and bees, once driven by instinct, finally find a moment of stillness. Even the 'Fairies of the Rosy Clouds,' who spend their days meticulously grooming themselves to manifest beauty, are transformed. The spirits of the six realms of existence and the ten directions, who were previously confined to their specific dimensions and levels of existence, have all been liberated by Practitioner Su's deliverance. They have broken free from their original constraints.
The Transformation of Beings
Consider the magpies, who were once known only for their habitual calls and their role as messengers of news. Now, the sound that emerges from their throats is the recitation of 'Namo Amituofo.' Their habitual cries have been transmuted into the sound of chanting, and in doing so, they have achieved their own liberation. Some beings, who were deeply attached to their animal forms, have been reborn in the Western Pure Land. There, as they wished, they have become the birds of the celestial palaces, joyfully spreading the sounds of the . It is truly magnificent, truly beyond words.
Beyond the Boundaries of Space and Time
Beyond the boundaries of our known world, traversing through space, there are countless other dimensions—different places, different times, and different causes. At this very moment, there is a breakthrough occurring. Under Practitioner Su's guidance, we are breaking through barrier after barrier. Every day brings new changes, as we delve deeper into the nature of space itself. Beyond the Milky Way, across the vast expanse of galaxies, we are transmitting positive energy to all corners of the universe. There are infinitely layered sentient beings, all longing for Chao Du. Because of their past confusion and their obsessive attachments, they are filled with regret. They are part of the vast collective of spirits in the universe, and after listening to the sutras and hearing the Dharma, every single one of them yearns for salvation.
Practitioner Su's Six Roots are in constant contact with , allowing her to clearly foresee the suffering of these spirits. This is why she performs this Chao Du without a single moment of rest. What do we mean by 'sentient beings'? 'Sentient' means that we are all part of the great collective, with no distinction between 'you' and 'me.' 'Spirits' are those who are ethereal and drifting, lost, not knowing where they came from or where they are going. Together, these beings fill the void of the universe. Everyone has their own confusion—confused by their bodies, confused by this world, confused by things they cannot take with them but refuse to let go of, including their own personalities.
as a Dharma Vessel
The body is meant to be a Dharma vessel, but it requires someone to lead the way. Listening to the sutras is what allows us to understand the body, to let go of the body, and to properly utilise the body. The body can be a source of great suffering and poison, or it can be a source of light and brilliance. It is two sides of the same coin, a situation that can be flipped in an instant. It all depends on how clear-headed you are and how you choose to act.
Practitioner Su's Dharma talks are designed to be applied in our daily lives. Practice is the awareness of every single moment. Breaking through the limitations of the body is the homework of every practitioner. Whatever circumstances manifest before you, welcome them with , examine them in the present moment, and transform the situation right then and there. That is the essence of diligent practice every single day. It is about true practice, continuous practice, and sincere practice.
