Interview with Dai Jun-Lang (Founder of the Cheng Yi Group)

Interview Chief Writer: Venerable Fa Hui

June 22, 2026

Dai Jun-Lang:

Namo Amituofo.

I have heard that the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss is the most beautiful place in the vastness of the Dharma Realm, the Milky Way, the universe, the Earth, the heavens beyond heavens, and the other-worldly realms; it is the ultimate destination where all souls should go.

What does 'ultimate' mean? It means that once residents arrive in the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, they no longer need to apply for immigration, nor do they need to travel to the next station for their souls; they can possess an infinite spiritual life until the day they attain Buddhahood. That is the Buddha-land established by Namo Amituofo.

At this moment, I am at the transit station to the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss—the Western Land of Dharma-Nature. This Western Land of Dharma-Nature is the Buddha-land established by my benefactor, Practitioner Su, after he attained Buddhahood. As the only living Buddha in the human world on Earth, Practitioner Su is extremely compassionate and has vowed to save all humanity on Earth and the immeasurable and boundless beings of the spirit realm. For this reason, Practitioner Su has guided the souls of deceased tycoons and celebrities from all over the world to the Western Land of Dharma-Nature.

Many of them, like me, are currently wearing smiles filled with Dharma joy on the Western Land of Dharma-Nature, happily chanting, 'Namo Amituofo.' The feeling of being without afflictions is truly wonderful; this is something one cannot experience in the human world. At this moment, on the Western Land of Dharma-Nature, I have finally realised a small wish of mine—to have only pure and good thoughts in my heart. It turns out that this is such a blissful thing.

At this moment, due to the pure magnetic field of the Western Land of Dharma-Nature, almost no evil thoughts can arise; what naturally arise are only good thoughts. This is truly a miraculous place. I never knew that a person could be completely good and pure, thinking only of how to help others without ever thinking of oneself. In such a state, it is of such great help to oneself, allowing one to feel so relaxed and at ease.

At this moment, I knelt and prostrated to the great Namo Amituofo and the great Practitioner Su. Because of the Buddha, all sentient beings in the world can be saved, and all beings in the human world have the opportunity to receive the benefits of not grow old, not get sick, and the spirit does not die because of Namo Amituofo.

Yes, at this moment, Namo Amituofo has already arrived on Earth in the worldly realm and is currently abiding at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia. Namo Amituofo, who has never left the temple for twenty-four hours, hopes that all people on Earth will no longer have to suffer from aging and illness, and hopes that everyone can be free from the fear of death.

Achieving this is by no means a fantasy. First, it requires everyone to accept Buddhist education. The salvation team of Namo Amituofo has been working actively and diligently, hoping to let more people know about the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia and to let the public know that the Buddha has already arrived in the human world.

Currently, only a very small number of people know about this sacred land, but in the future, it will definitely be crowded. This is because no one in the world wishes to suffer from aging, sickness, and death; and as long as one comes to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia, everyone can be free from aging, sickness, and death.

I know many people will think this slogan is an exaggeration, but behind this objective lies real skills, and magnificent opportunity. Because this is the first time the Buddha has come to the human world, and with Practitioner Su, a living Buddha in the human world, the perfect cooperation between the two Buddhas of the spirit realm and the human world has brought hope of salvation to both realms.

I am Dai Jun-Lang, the founder of the Cheng Yi Group.

After death, my soul entered the brain-gouging hell to suffer retribution. In this hell, I went through a very painful process, with my head constantly being gouged open, repeating this punishment. Amidst the extreme pain, I still kept a small remnant of reason in my heart, which was the belief that I must have done something wrong, but I did not know the answer to this question.

In hell, I suffered endless torture and wailed incessantly until a golden light shone upon my soul, and that is how I came to the 'Western Land of Dharma-Nature.'

The Western Land of Dharma-Nature is located at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, and is the Buddha-land established by Practitioner Su after he attained Buddhahood. The reason I was able to come to this place is also due to the help of Practitioner Su. I feel very secure here; when I first arrived, I still felt intense pain, but I recovered very quickly, and my heart became increasingly peaceful and stable.

I did not live a very long life; I left the human world before I was sixty. Illness is indeed a problem that everyone must face. Although I lived with this body every day, the body was not something I could control, which is the suffering of 'not being able to be the master.'

I think everyone has these problems, and for this problem to be solved, it truly requires Buddhist education. If one cannot recognise the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way, then it is very difficult to avoid causing harm to one's soul. It turns out that the body is like a mirror for the soul. When the soul is no longer in a state of purity and goodness, what manifests on the body will be various abnormal "situations", including physical deformities, hunchbacks, and even aches and discomfort in various parts, with the most obvious being the onset of serious illnesses.

These all show that one's soul has actually been severely polluted, and the source of the pollution is that one's heart has changed.

Buddhist education tells us to put in the work from the heart, to keep our heart in a state of purity and goodness, just like a newborn baby, without any delusions or messy thoughts, only innocent and sincere smiles; having no prejudices about anything in the world, only a sincere attitude in dealing with others.

Therefore, it can also be said that the soul of a newborn baby is actually very clean. But as one grows older, having wrong concepts and behaviours leads to the soul being stained with layers of filth. Everyone will find that compared to when they were young, their faces are no longer as bright, but carry some darkness and the weathering brought by age; this actually represents that one's character has deviated from the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way.

Education is indeed a very important matter. If a child does not receive education, the path they take in the future may lead them into hell. This is not an exaggerated threat, but a conclusion I have reached through my own personal experience.

As for me, Dai Jun-Lang, the reason I entered the 'brain-gouging hell' after death was actually because I had not received education on the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way in the past. While I was alive, I worked hard to start my business, and I am very grateful that many noble people were willing to trust me and give me help. Whether it was financial or spiritual support, it was of great help to me, and I have always kept this in my heart with gratitude.

I have always believed that Taiwan is a precious land, and the people living here are very simple and passionate. The foundation of Goodness exists in the hearts of every Taiwanese person, which is something I am proud of regarding Taiwan. Therefore, when running hotels, I have always been people-oriented rather than purely considering it from a commercial perspective. I hope that travellers who come to the hotel can feel and understand this precious island of Taiwan.

I am very happy to have the opportunity to be interviewed by the temple's monastics and to convey my message to everyone in such a special and precious way. This is a precious opportunity for me to exert my remaining value.

After a person dies, they really cannot take anything with them. A lifetime of hard work and achievements, accumulated relationships and connections, and even countless assets under one's name, all vanish into thin air in the face of death; it is truly nothing left, just a dream. And as for the people in the world, do they recognise this body of Dai Jun-Lang, or do they recognise the soul of Dai Jun-Lang? That is truly a big question mark.

I actually know in my heart that although many Taiwanese people believe in Buddhism and Taoism, have long-standing habits of ancestor worship, and believe that there should be a soul after death, if everyone were to hear the soul of the deceased tell so many complete messages and shocking facts after death, would everyone be willing to take it seriously?

This tests everyone's good roots, Blessings, and whether their Causal Conditions are mature. If the Causal Conditions are mature, there will be an opportunity to be reborn in the Western Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss and receive the true benefits of the Buddha's teachings; if the Causal Conditions are not yet mature, and one feels unconvinced after seeing it, then that is also following the Causal Conditions. Regardless, I will do my best to share what I have seen and heard after death, as well as everything I have understood, by seizing this opportunity.

Coming to the Western Land of Dharma-Nature, I learned one thing: that a person's body is like a hotel where our soul temporarily stays. In this hotel, I am not the only guest; there are countless other guests. They all followed me to check into this hotel because of me. So, it can be said that I am the main guest, and the other guests are secondary guests.

When we are born, all the other guests in this hotel are still in a deep sleep. As one biased thought after another arises in our hearts, these sleeping guests begin to be awakened one by one. The awakened guests have great resentment and dissatisfaction, so they begin to wantonly destroy everything in the hotel. Once these guests start causing trouble, to calm them down, one must chant this 'Namo Amituofo' and keep one's heart in a state of purity and goodness. If one continues to have biased behaviours, these guests will become more stubborn than before and cause more serious damage to the hotel. Over time, the hotel becomes increasingly dilapidated, even leaking air, lacking water, and losing power.

After these secondary guests wake up, they will drive me, the main guest, out of the hotel. When all ten main guests—the three hun souls and seven po souls—are driven out of the hotel, that is when this hotel ceases operations.

I wonder if everyone can understand my way of explaining the relationship between the three hun souls and seven po souls in the human body, and the countless karmic creditors and sentient beings with karmic affinity? Everything above is what I have seen with my own eyes on the Western Land of Dharma-Nature.

It turns out that the body is just a temporarily borrowed shell and not the true self; the true self is the soul within the body. When I discovered that there were so many ghosts tightly following everyone inside their bodies, I was truly shocked. I never knew that from the moment a person is born, they are already in a state of debt.

When a child is born, most people are overjoyed, thinking it is a happy event, busy planning for their child's future or preparing for various expenses, yet they do not know that their child actually carries the karmic debts owed from countless kalpas in the past.

The suffering of children lies in the lack of education. Every child is actually very simple and has infinite potential. If they can attain Buddhahood, they can save many people and beings. As parents, they should have the responsibility to educate their children, let them know how to walk the path of life, and know what responsibilities they carry when they come to the world.

For Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su, I am very grateful and respectful, not only because the Buddha saved me from hell, but also because countless children in the world, as well as countless newborns in the future, have the opportunity to no longer suffer because of the Buddhist education at the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre.

Now, I, Dai Jun-Lang, very much hope that every child in the world can receive Buddhist education. I hope children will know the importance of keeping a good heart from a young age, so that their three hun souls and seven po souls will not be kicked out of their bodies.

Parents often invest a lot of effort and love in their children. When I saw on the Land of Dharma-Nature that many children were no longer being mastered by their true selves, while their parents were still worrying and anxious for them, my heart felt that this world is truly sad; it turns out that in the end, everything is nothing left.

Parents work hard for their children, but in reality, their children are no longer themselves. Some parents are distressed because their children are disobedient and unreasonable, not knowing that it is not the child themselves who is disobedient, but other spirit entities. Here, I, Dai Jun-Lang, use children to express the suffering of the human world. Everyone has been a child, so do you all feel that you are suffering?

I may no longer be young now, perhaps eighty or ninety years old, but Namo Amituofo still sees every one of us as his child, understanding that we are all a treasure. As long as we are tempered, we have the opportunity to become pieces of the Buddha Jewel. Therefore, the compassionate Namo Amituofo has come to the world and brought us the great Dharma that can truly help everyone achieve liberation. I hope everyone can accept Buddhist education, not be an ordinary person bound by the suffering of aging, sickness, and death, but find back the original Buddha-like appearance of oneself.

On the Western Land of Dharma-Nature, I can hear the sutras taught by Practitioner Su. When I first heard Practitioner Su teaching the sutras, I was truly moved. I had never looked at my life from a spiritual perspective. Regarding the suffering in life, I had never heard anyone who could clearly analyse it from such a simple and profound perspective. It turns out that the essence of life is suffering, it turns out that this 'Namo Amituofo' is so important, and I had never thought that if there was a little selfishness in my heart, it would plunge me into an irredeemable situation.

Seeing so many wealthy people and celebrities end up in hell after death makes me realise the importance of the Universal Principle, the Truth, and the Right Way. It is truly vital. When a person comes into this world, if they cannot make a vow to save the world, they really should not have come. If they do not understand that their true responsibility is to resolve conflicts with the karmic creditors within their own bodies, then the path of life will be very difficult indeed. Practitioner Su is extremely compassionate. Seeing the suffering in the world, unable to bear the suffering of sentient beings, Practitioner Su practises in the human world, actively purifying their own body, mind, and spirit, and finally attained Buddhahood. This inconceivable achievement is due to Practitioner Su’s deep good roots, blessings, and causal conditions, as well as the great vows made in past lives. Encountering the Buddha’s teachings in this life allowed the vow power deeply hidden within the soul to manifest once again, enabling the realisation of the true nature and the attainment of Buddhahood. How many people on Earth have deep karmic affinity with the Buddha, as well as good roots and blessings, just like Practitioner Su? The number is not small. Do not belittle yourselves. In fact, many people on Earth are Westerners who have descended from the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, only to become lost in this world and unable to return. However, the deep karmic affinity established with the Buddha in their souls has not been damaged by the passage of time; it is merely waiting for the right moment to bring everyone back to the West. Now, Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su are together in this world. This great causal condition signifies that the conditions for the liberation of countless people are about to ripen once again. At this moment, I, Dai Jun-Lang, call upon all entrepreneurs in Taiwan, hoping that everyone can join the Namo Amituofo salvation team. The salvation team has been actively carrying out its mission of salvation. Whether it is help for the human world or the spirit realm, every bit is recorded on the website of the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia. I hope everyone can browse the articles on the temple's website, and you will know that in the small town of Goombungee, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, there is a temple that has been silently working for the people of the Earth. In terms of Australia, the end of the drought and the request for rain is a very good example. On a global scale, the Wuhan outbreak, which previously caused heavy casualties, was only alleviated due to the help of Namo Amituofo and Practitioner Su. To achieve this, one must be able to resolve conflicts with the sentient beings of the spirit realm; without sufficient merit, this cannot be done. Practitioner Su performs Chao Du