This interview was recorded on September 29, 2017, at the Hsiang Kuang Buddhist Centre in Australia. It features the spirit of Steve Jobs, who has sought deliverance through the guidance of Practitioner Su and the compassionate environment of the Centre.
Steve Jobs speaks:
". A single point of light in the void—that is the best way to describe the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre at this very moment. It is already preparing to throw its gates wide open to welcome the masses. The work being done here is exactly what humanity has been searching for and researching for so long. This place is cultivating talent and helping people recover their innate instincts. Our human bodies, if properly developed, are actually incredibly useful. You can travel the world through the power of thought because you have recovered your . ' Body' sounds like a fairy tale, doesn't it? But through genuine, solid practice, it is truly attainable. Many eminent monks and venerable masters of the past possessed this, but they all chose to remain low-key and hidden.
Recovering Our Innate Instincts
Your innate instincts allow you to converse with all things in existence. You can perceive multiple dimensions, not just the human realm, the animal realm, the crawling insects, or the physical world of mountains and rivers. In truth, mountains have mountain gods, waters have water gods, flowers have flower spirits, and there are elementals. By recovering your instincts, you can chat with them all. They will tell you where they came from and how accumulating merit and virtue can lead one to become a deity. Let us put it in more civilised terms so that everyone can understand. Indigenous people in deep mountains who have not been polluted by modern society can heal their tribespeople without any medicine. You might ask, where did they learn this in the mountains? They didn't. This is an instinct that remains untainted by the great dyeing vat of society.
When children are born, before their pyloric valves close, they often smile at the empty sky. No one is teasing them, so why are they smiling? It is because beings from other dimensions are playing with the child and smiling at them. The child does not understand that these are what people call 'ghosts.' In fact, it is not entirely accurate to call them ghosts; it is more respectful to refer to them as 'spirit bodies.' However, as children are fed more concepts and exposed to more sensory stimuli, they gradually lose the instinct to see these other dimensions. You who are reading this article now are neither an indigenous person nor a child anymore. Therefore, the best advice Steve Jobs can give you is to come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre in Australia to participate in the practice of recovering your instincts.
A Lively Path to
The word 'practice' sounds very serious, but my grandmother, Practitioner Su, leads people in a very lively way. If you accidentally fall asleep for too long, Practitioner Su will smile at you with and emphasise that you should improve next time. She never scolds; she only uses the 'Lion's Roar.' The Lion's Roar is a form of profound compassion, a sincere hope that we will not be 'hopeless cases' but rather self-illuminating night-shining pearls. If you hate that you cannot change your personality and feel depressed, Practitioner Su will take you to eat ice cream. We are all moving toward the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss like a family. Several fellow practitioners have already recovered their instincts and can converse with all things, so some very interesting and unexpected things often happen. Practitioner Su also shares her experiences of flying out to perform . Everything that happens here is so natural and miraculous; if you were not here to experience it yourself, it would be hard to believe. So, it is perfectly normal if you do not believe what Steve Jobs is saying now. Those who are willing to believe may have a karmic affinity with the Buddha, with Practitioner Su, with the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre, and with Steve Jobs. This affinity will eventually bring us all together.
Those who enjoy exploring past and present lives and destiny do not need to spend piles of money or wait in line to see tarot card readers. You only need to come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre. Once the fourfold assembly closes their eyes, they can know the reason for your illness or marital troubles. Namo Amituofo and the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas reside here permanently, using this place—this relay station between the human world and the Western Pure Land—to lead everyone back to the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss. This is the compassion of the Buddha. If possible, Steve Jobs could explain it to you more clearly, or you could simply come and feel the reality of it all for yourself. The current four-hundred-acre property makes one's heart feel much more expansive. Kangaroos might even be eating breakfast with you just across a fence. This is the natural state within nature. Practice is actually a joyful thing. If you do not feel enough Dharma , you must examine where your practice has become blocked. If you want me to help you, just come and put down that head full of preconceived notions.
Observations from the Stars
Today, Practitioner Su and I flew into outer space. Because the National Master Xian Shou mentioned outer space yesterday—and in truth, we go there every day—I decided to bring it up today and observe it specifically. The sky between the stars is pitch black. Some planets emit their own light, flickering with a faint, pale purple glow. But most rely on the light of a sun to provide heat, just like Earth, which has day and night, cold and heat, depending on the angle of the sun's rays. Steve Jobs is now in the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss, which is higher than the levels of these planets, so I can see them quite clearly, though I do not fully understand them. I can only speak of what I see; as for deeper truths, I may need to practice and purify myself further.
I discovered that extraterrestrials themselves are distributed across different levels of space, though some are similar. The universe is very quiet because only humans and some Earth creatures rely on speech to communicate. I look at the beings in outer space; they are expressionless, but in reality, they are communicating through their hearts. Interestingly, I found that extraterrestrials also hold exchanges. They have a planet where they hold regular meetings, and planets send representatives at irregular intervals to exchange information. Some simple planets do not often develop spacecraft to explore, so the information in the universe is obtained through these exchanges. Others love to explore and frequently modify their national spacecraft to fly further and know more. The people of those planets know a lot because once they discover something new, they hang up a large screen and share what they have found with their people. Therefore, the people of those planets are generally very knowledgeable about the universe, and they are known as the 'intellectuals' among the planets. Their planet is often the protagonist at these exchange meetings. Everyone is grateful for their initiative, but in truth, they can be a bit overbearing. Do not think that extraterrestrials have no personality; they all do. Otherwise, many of you in the fourfold assembly have been extraterrestrials yourselves, and after going through reincarnation, your personalities remain.
The Light of Deliverance
Many planets also learned about the Western Land of Ultimate Bliss at these exchange meetings, and everyone knows that they must come to the Hsiang Kuang Pure Land Buddhist Centre to have a way to go there. Some pull on parts of Practitioner Su's body to remind her; sometimes, the lights dim during class or chanting; sometimes, they arrive with the mist. The most normal channel is to participate in the morning kinhin or the . At this time, Practitioner Su stands in the outer reaches of space, radiating great light. The light is even brighter now because there are so many more people, including Changren, Steve Jobs, and the Universal Bodhisattvas standing out together. With great speed, Practitioner Su's Dharma Body disperses, and Changren and the Universal Bodhisattvas disperse as well. Practitioner Su brought back so much stardust, meteorites, creatures from other planets, and extraterrestrials, and handed them over to the ancestral masters. Everyone who dispersed had light on their bodies, much brighter than the stars humans see in the sky. They were scattered across the void; it was magnificent, beautiful, and deeply meaningful.
Compassion for the Lost
Practitioner Su also led us to fly into the cliffs, opening up the layers of space within. Some of the beings there were already acquainted with the Universal Bodhisattvas. The demons pressed into the cliffs saw people they recognised and were so happy they almost wept, because they had been stubborn and stuck in these cliffs for a long time. The Universal Bodhisattvas first counselled them to turn toward Goodness, planted seeds of Goodness, thoughts of Goodness, and Namo Amituofo in their hearts before rescuing them. Within the cliffs, there were also some who were extremely arrogant after creating ; they are ghosts now, pressed inside. After being pressed in, they still held their heads up high. I really cannot stand them. Although Steve Jobs was also arrogant in the past, I tried to persuade them to lower their heads. Oh! They even glared at me! It is truly hard to change. I asked the Universal beside me to help them plant a heart of Goodness and wash their heads with thoughts of Goodness. Wow! It was truly miraculous; their faces instantly became much softer, and then they were released and taken away toward the light. This is Practitioner Su's compassion for the Bodhisattvas within the cliffs.
The Truth of Cause and Effect
Today, we also performed Chao Du for animals. The animals were also planted with seeds of Goodness and thoughts of Goodness, because to become a certain type of animal, one must have possessed the same traits as that animal. For example, crocodiles are very domineering; they can even swallow an elephant. Their strength is not to be underestimated. They eat so much—don't they get bloated! Deer love to jump around and run fast. Giraffes love to show off; if you love to show off, you are given a long neck so you can be seen forever. Ostriches are people who love to race, but they also often have an 'ostrich mentality,' loving to escape. Zebras are because you love to wear striped clothing (this is just Steve Jobs' own thought, I am joking). Those who love to wear striped clothes can still wear them! Zebra Bodhisattva, I am sorry, I am teasing you. You say, why did you become a zebra? Oh! He said he is a person who distinguishes black and white very clearly. Interesting, isn't it? Animals can talk. Let me tell you one more thing that will shock you: people who love to go shopping become the 'roads' of the insect world. Because they love to 'hit the pavement' and are never satisfied, buying many shoes when they only have two feet, so they are given the role of a road, with many feet, allowing them to wear every pair. But the fundamental point is that they did this to attract men, engaging in adultery, which is why they received this .
If you explore all things in the universe, it is truly miraculous. The laws of karma and cause and effect truly exist; you cannot escape them in the slightest. Steve Jobs has witnessed everything that has happened, and I am filled with Dharma joy. I invite everyone to come and recover your instincts and to verify everything Steve Jobs has said. Namo Amituofo."
